Are we allowed to talk about women and/or lesbians?

Again, apologies if I am misremembering this Ego but didn't you say you were trans on the other thread. Therefore I am talking with one of 'them'. I am asking a reasonable question to understand your point of view, because at the moment my idea of transactivists is exactly represented by Ada. If you're saying this isn't the case I really don't understand why you won't answer.
Maybe it's just easier to call people ignorant, huh?

I wasn't asking, it was a statement.

Why are people who acknowledge that Ada is at the most extreme end of the spectrum demanding details of more moderate activists? Surely that acknowledgement of necessity involves acceptance that most activists are more moderate?

I interpret that differently. I think most people think that all transactivists are extremists. This is why people are asking for evidence of moderate trans-activists from those who say moderate transactivists exist, and that moderate transactivists are in the majority.

Again, an Islamist wants Islam to be integrated with politics. It's not just an Muslim person who talks openly about Islam. No matter how moderate, that is incompatible with secular society. Transactivism is no different, it is incompatible with a society where (until feminism wins, long in the future) people are separated by sex.

also DropYourSword it leads to the situation where in order to find a transactivist who doesn't hate women we have to sift through pages of search results of insults and threats of violence.

I don't particularly want to spend my morning doing that. I would find it extremely upsetting, threatening & triggering. I don't think that I am unique amongst women by feeling like that.

Ego could help avoid that situation offering links or names supporting Egos's position that there are lots of nice transactivists and Ada is an abberration. But Ego won't do that

and off the tracks again.

Can we report for persistent derailing?

Why not go on there Because we are having this discussion here. When I googled I came up with such gems as Stefoknee and Ada.

You're pretty much admitting there are no activists who don't fit the stereotypes.

If that's really what you are getting from Ego's posts, MrsMerton, it explains your attitude. But if you read them properly you will see that that is very clearly not what she is saying. Why are people who acknowledge that Ada is at the most extreme end of the spectrum demanding details of more moderate activists? Surely that acknowledgement of necessity involves acceptance that most activists are more moderate?

ego, saying 'most' is different from saying 'they'.

Surely that is exactly the point Ego is making?

The thing that blows my mind is that unlike other extremists, transactivists are actually influencing policy and legislation.

Like Steofonknee who was named checked by the Canadian government for their contribution to trans rights legislation. (For those of you who don't know, Steofonknee is a 50+ male who recently life his wife and children to live as a 6 year old girl, and enjoys anal sex with their "adopted father"). Now normally we'd just say nobody woukd take them seriously, but Stefonknee is a respected TA and I've not heard anybody trans (except the consistently brilliant Miranda Yardley) condemn them and say "this person does not speak for me or represent me in any way"

But there is no evidence of moderate trans-activists, I have looked.

Can you link to "There are plenty of prominent trans activists who write in the press"?

The thing is, I have Muslim friends, so I can ask them. I don't have trans friends, ergo I can't ask them. I don't think "go and Google" is particularly helpful. Especially as it can lead to the very misinformation you are arguing against. You despair at me misunderstanding your definition of a transactivist but don't help me to educate myself.

Islamists are not the same thing as Muslims, Ego. Quite a sleight of hand there.