Not sure where to ask about this awful terrible baby advice you have published?

YY to FusionChefGoeff

From Mumsnet's own Babies: The Mumsnet Guide book:

"Similarly, the choice between demand-feeding and various off-the-peg routines can feel horribly over-laden with significance. Some routines seem to promise that they will make your baby happy and healthy, that they will set her up for a life of success and wellbeing, that they will make her sleep through the night. And so you squint at the book, which may be full of pseudoscientific charts and tables, convinced in your heart that you are ruining your baby's life because you cannot make her sleep for an hour in a darkened room at mid-morning..."

Cross post ridiculous. Giggling away in the crow's nest now.

Sorry..... missed that accidental

Think the MN mutiny was in response to my pirate comment ithink.
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Hoist the main sail and shiver me timbers!*

Unfortunate web name I was of the understanding that weight plays a big part in this. If my child was Prem, feeding badly, having trouble sleeping or settling obviously I would modify what I was doing. As it is he's feeding like a 6-8 week old, gaining weight fast and settling well so I am very happy with it. Also there are a lot of on demand feeder fans on here who have said their babies sleep for 6 hours straight in the day and they let them so what's the difference??

MN Mutiny!

Really?
Quite a few comments not supporting your hysteria OP

Ummm.. I thought this was pretty decent advice and is close to the way I dealt with both mine as babies. It does say babies should be treated as individuals and therefore you adjust accordingly.

...and the fact that much of it goes against current advice and what we know about normal behaviour.

What I mean by what we know is "academically researched and peer reviewed studies and examinations of the metadata" not the ramblings of some woman hawking her latest book or service.

Tbh I did pretty much all of that with my DD, off the back of my mum's advice, and she was going 12am-8am from 4 weeks and 8pm-8am from 8 weeks. Obvs it depends on the baby, what works for some won't work for others. No harm in giving it a go, esp if you're bottle feeding as it's easier to judge how much they're getting etc.

It's the way it's presented as 'the only' way though.

The reason I ended up with a serious MN addiction sticking with MN over the books etc with my first was that you could get loads of different suggestions then work out yourself what might fit your family.

If I'd seen this early days I would have been terrified that I was doing everything wrong and my underweight EBF baby would have been admitted to hospital!!

The lack of balance is what gets my goat.

People actually like poorly written, black and white advice to be promoted.

Who would have thought it?

Newborns (including 3 week old's Busy77) are not supposed to sleep for long periods at night.

This explains normal sleep for babies and is well regarded academically: www.isisonline.org.uk/how_babies_sleep/normal_sleep_development/

Although i did bottle feed so could see how much he was having, if breastfeeding i think thats different because you have no way of knowing how much they've had

It's bad advice because it goes against current guidelines and it is far too prescriptive.

Reading that article into the independent that op linked to though...was that supposed to be promoting this woman's new book?? I can't imagine many mums would read that and think hmmm yes she seems like someone who's opinion I can trust. The bit about how women are the carers and men the providers, how women are natural homemakers! Ha!

I dunno, my midwife told me to feed every 4 hours with ds and he slept really well, i used to set an alarm for every 4 hours I actually thought he would die if i didn't, or if i fed him more he'd explode or something, i knew nothing about babies, but it worked for me and ill probably do the same with the next one.

Although DS didn't give a shit about being passed around like a parcel, in his babyhood we lived at my mums with 6 other people, then my boyfriends mums, then temporary accommodation with loads of people wanting to hold him all the time, the only effect it seems to have had is that he will talk to absolutely anyone.

wow, l don't get the fury in relation to this......if you don't want a routine then don't attempt to follow it...if you disagree then ignore and do your own thing.

Some posters here have clearly found similar routines helpful.

After glancing at the first few posts l was expecting it said to leave newborns to scream all night alone or something! Rather than a few tips on routine...talk about overreaction.

Personally l have never met a new mum incapable of reading advice and making a sensible judgement in relation to her baby and that babies needs..

I used to pick mine up after three hours if they were still asleep between the hours of 7am and 10pm and shove a nipple in their mouth. I don't think they ever stayed asleep at that point. I do think that shoving as much food into them as humanly possible during daylight hours and dissuading them from sleeping for long periods in the day is simply the logical approach.

However, one child insisted on feeding every two hours during the daytime for months and there was no way I could manage to space it out. So I'd say that "don't go longer than 3 hours between feeds in daytime but bear in mind that you may need to feed more frequently" is a pretty good rule of thumb.

-waves at ridiculous and invites her to swap cutlasses-

I am staggered that these days anyone would tell a new mother to only feed her baby every three or four hours.
Of course for some babies this is fine- for others it really is not.
Where is the nuance in that article?

How much has Rachel whatsherface paid you for this mn? Whatever happened to following your instincts? Utter shite.