Daily Mail posting chunks of threads online- has this been agreed with MNHQ?

The problem for me is as follows:

1. I think the DM is a hateful publication because it has a modus operandi history of stirring up hatred against disadvantaged groups such as women, homosexuals and refugees.

1. Traffic to the DM website generates revenue for the DM via its sponsorship partners.

1. When the DM lifts material from MN, it quickly creates clickable material without much journalistic input.

1. They almost always give it an anti-feminist slant if at all possible.

I don't really want my content which I'm happy to share under the MN banner ("by parents for parents") to be used by the DM to increase its revenue (2) without using up its resources (3) whilst simultaneously being used (4) to vindicate its hateful position (1).

That's about it for me. Just as I'm happy to provide craft activities for a particular set of children, but would be vastly unamused to have a dozen of the BNP Junior Section dumped on my doorstep to make felt golliwogs.

Why do people care enough to change their name in the hopes that the DM won't quote them?

Why does anyone really care anyway? No one should post anything they won't be happy to read on the front page of a newspaper. There is no such thing as privacy on a message board.

Before I post anything identifying I always ask myself if I would be ok with everyone I know reading it. If I am not I don't post it.

If I needed support of a sensitive topic name changing and changing some details would work.

I don't see the issue.

Mumsnet is a business. It needs to make money to carry on. So when threads are linked in the DM it creates more clicks over here which is what the advertisers are after. It doesn't matter if the people are lovely or not it's all about the clicks.

You have to accept that if you want to use the site.

I've been here about 5 and a half years and it's always been full of DM readers to be fair.

Until I joined, I never gave the newspaper a second thought. Now I seem to be reading about it on a daily basis.

Nowt wrong with that. People can choose whatever newspaper they want, but I don't understand the ones who read it/link to it and then start moaning about it.

usual. Sometimes AIBU does resemble the DM comments section.

Thanks for the link worra

I'm not a DM reader! They are the scum of the earth.

I get that it is a public forum, but I don't know many people in real life who are on MN. However with MN posting on FB, and the DM quoting threads, it is bringing the threads to the attention of thousands of people who would not look at MN otherwise. presumably this is what MN wants, but it is off putting to people who used to think of MN as a place for advice and help, who now won't do that in case it ends up on FB or DM.

The most recent DM lift keeps referring to "another poster" or "a fellow mum" (vom).

Oh god yes, the DM swearword nicknames.

Like the DM isn't just going to blot the name out, as they do with all swearwords.

It doesn't stop them printing the post.

The Daily Mail are fucking cunts, yes.

But most of you don't understand copyright. In fairness, neither do I and I've done exams in it!

Short Answer: fair use, attributed. Shower your posts with four-letter words and DM insults if you don't want to be quoted.

I'm not a daily mail reader Worra - I'm on today's thread and someone else said it had been lifted. Thanks for the link to that thread though, I only had a couple of secs earlier and couldn't find a MNHQ response immediately.

This seems to come up a lot. MNHQ can't do anything about it. They have said so many times.

They put lots of threads on the MN Facebook page. MN is not a secret place on the internet it's public.

Link here

Why do Daily Mail readers, keep complaining about the Daily Mail?

HQ have responded many times on this subject.

I'll see if I can dig one out and link to it.

I have had a few things lately which I could really do with some advice with from MN as I have no family or close enough friends to ask., I honestly wouldnt dream of posting for advice now after seeing all the articles in the DM. Its a shame really as I know MN users would be able to give me some good experienced advice.

I'd like to hear a response to this as well - MN.

As all posts are freely available to read on-line, you don't even need to be a user to be able to read them, I'm not sure whether DM are in breach of anything....except journalistic ability!

It's starting to put me off posting, as I don't want comments in the DM in case I am outted in real life.

Some of the stories posted could cause huge problems in families or friendships if they are splashed all over the papers and people recognise themselves.