What is Mumsnets definition of transphobia?

*gender not ended!

Nor does Caitlyn Jenner, oddly enough.

MN is one of the very few places online where ended critical discussion is allowed. I sincerely hope that does not change

Paris Lees doesn't have the first fucking idea about what is good for women.

I get really upset with people explaining (and that is the word) that I am delusional, that I am mentally ill and that I just need therapy.

I can totally understand why you would be upset with that, and it's not nice for them to direct that at you. But that you naturally feel that way as a person doesn't have any bearing on the truth or otherwise of that view.

Paris Lees has written about how great catcalls & sexual objectification are for women (don't we all want to be treated like a piece of meat and have a dick shoved in out mouths to shut us up?)

Lees now says: "Radical feminists should be absolutely delighted and grateful to the trans community because they’ve been going on about abolishing gender for decades and it looks like we’re finally making some headway with that. We know that the more polarised gender is in a society the greater the violence women face. So anything we can do to lessen gender segregation is good for everybody, but in particular for women.”

Radfems want to abolish gender, not sex. Lees is (wilfully? ignorantly?) mixing the two. Women need sex-segregation because of the violence we face, and Lees' perpetuating misogynist, gender-stereotypical crap is only going to make that violence worse.

Vashta - the male privilege required to think that being sexually harassed by men isn't a problem for women and they should be grateful is not the same thing as being insulated from poverty and bad things happening to you. It's not a value judgement on how great someone's life is. It merely means that this is rarely a problem for men, so they don't think it's an important problem for women. For Paris it's a validation of Paris's identity and not something negative. But Paris was commenting on how women should feel about it.

Sorry ego, I wasn't suggesting you have asd and it wasn't a dig - just that (as I have asd) the statistical link makes me uncomfortable. Iyswim?

I don't know why I put Paris in bold... probably something to do with male privilege

Fair enough on Paris Lees, I've only ever met her in social settings and not got into big discussions so I'll take your word(s) for it!
I do think though that privilege is something that affects a group in general not every individual, and there are men / transwomen who haven't experienced much privilege because they've had shitty lives in other ways. Not every transwoman is a Caitlyn Jenner.

As a famous sportswoman has been in the news today, I can guess what that thread is without even looking.

Ugh that thread is disgustingly racist, sexist and goady. I was going to comment but it's a waste of typing

And then there's the asd link, maryz...

I quite like Paris Lees! But maybe she's said stuff I'm not aware of.

Unless you think women should be thankful that they are sexually harassed in the street then I imagine so.

That article, for me, just serves to demonstrate how much male privilege trans women have grown up with and how little they understand what it's like to be a woman.

Miranda Yardley's worth a read.

Ah yes, Paris Lees, who thinks women should be grateful for cat calling. Paris Lees is an MRA's dream trans woman, tbh.

MNHQ - is it transphobic to start a thread insinuating that a top female athlete is a trans woman? Cos I reckon it is, and there's one just over there -----> right now

I quite like Paris Lees! But maybe she's said stuff I'm not aware of?