Banning the term "cis"

Dutch i think this is getting to the heart of it TBH - for me, trans women are women. A subcategory of women sometimes, in the same way as sometimes needing to specify 'Bangladeshi women' or 'mothers' or 'female politicians'. For others, they believe trans women are not and never will be women, so they need a separate category that makes it clear trans women are not included under the 'women' umbrella.

I'm a woman. No need for prefix or suffix or any other shit. I find cis offensive.

everydayfeminism.com/2015/01/being-called-cis-is-not-oppressive/
People getting all up-in-arms without even understanding what it means.
Ridiculous.

All - what the he'll are you on about?

That's ridiculous. It's not used to piss you off, it's used only in context to describe someone assigned to the gender they identify with because writing cis is quicker.

I do not identify with the gender I am assigned by people around me.

As this has been said before, by someone who is better with words than I am, here is a quote:

^"I do not identify with being silent

I do not identify with being pink

I do not identify with being soft

I do not identify with being scared

I do not identify with being weak

I do not identify with being submissive

I do not identify with being irrational

I do not identify with being hysterical

I do not identify with being bad at maths

I do not identify with being unintelligent

I do not identify with being followed

I do not identify with being grabbed

I do not identify with being assaulted

I do not identify with being raped

I do not identify with being inferior

I do not identify with being a woman as society has created it.

I do not identify as cis. I am not cis. I am a woman trying to fight with every fibre of my being against everything that my “gender identity” tells me to be. Woman as defined by society is not my gender identity. My gender identity is fuck this oppressive bullshit, and let me be a human fucking being".
—

Week Feminist - A Pox on the Patriarchy^

I am not cis.

I find it highly offensive.

I am a woman. Nothing else thank you very much.

Why can't we just use

Woman
Trans woman.

And that's it.

Why do we now need a prelude when we have just fine with out one till now?

You can't compare gay/straight with women/trans women (ie biological men). False analogy.

Well, no it doesn't actually. Cis literally means "on the same side".

I don't like it because they're fast becoming 'dirty' words. They are used in chemistry for a specific reason and I don't want it to get to the point when we have to use different words academic because a load of keyboard warriors have redefined them!

The term "cis" is not neutral and harmless. It's deeply loaded, and mainly used to set up a false dichotomy with spurious reasoning and wank on about ridiculous concepts like "cis-sexism" and "cis-privilege".

I didn't say that, I compared straight people to lgbt+ people. Which I think is undisputed.

It's literally just the linguistic opposite of trans (“across,” “beyond,” “through,”) - cis ("on this side of"). Both Latin.

Who says lgbt have less power than women though? It's oppressed minority (or majority) in both cases.

The term "cis" is offensive?? It literally means you identify as the sex you were born as. It's not offensive in the slightest.

I find cis a useful word when specifically discussing trans issues and would happily use it to describe myself. I obviously don't use it in everyday circumstances! If another poster asked me not to use it to describe them I'd obviously respect that, as I'd hope they'd respect my use of it to describe myself. You can't ban it, but it might be useful to explain somewhere - if MN hasn't already - that not everyone is comfortable with it (outside of MN I don't know anyone who objects to cis so I can easily imagine someone using it without realising it's controversial).

So if a load of straight people started saying that we don't need the word straight as we can just use normal, would that be OK?

No. Because the people with less power - the lgbt+ people - get their voices amplified by the allies with power - the non dick head straight people.

purple because it means that women by definition can never be trans women, and vice versa. Which TBH I suspect is why a lot of people here seem to dislike the word; for me, I don't see any problem with trans women being one kind of women and cis women being another (and the vast majority), like women who don't use Mumnet are one kind of women, and women who can't resist getting involved in contentious threads are another ;)

I am a woman. I am offended by the cis prefix.

It is very strange, that in blurring the gender/sex definitions, in an attempt to make us all more equal, I think? We need so many more labels.

It is getting all too confusing. I miss the days when I could know whether someone was a woman just by checking for earrings in their ears.

'Woman' = all people who identify as adult females

'Trans/cis/tall/blonde/disabled/whatever' = sub categories within 'woman'

Most women are cis. Most women are also able bodied. Doesn't mean that saying someone is able bodied in a conversation about disability disrespects them or invalidates their experience. Or, indeed, makes them more oppressed than disabled people.

Thanks stars- that's really helpful

In certain circumstances I refer to myself as myself as cis. It's a useful shorthand description. Being cis is the norm, but to describe myself as normal would be saying that those who are non-cis are not normal - that would be nasty.
OP, go find yourself a grip.

On Call me Cait they pronounce cis as sis.