Banning the term "cis"

This site predominately used by women, the vast majority of whom object to the term cis

No, the vast majority of the posters on this thread (many of whom are extremely vociferous on all threads of this kind) object to this term.

I for one do not object to the use of cis, as by and large it is used only in context of differentiating between trans and non trans people. A differentiation which seems to be some that many who object to 'cis' are pretty keen on.

I have read this thread and another which popped up in active and find the term to be very offensive.

It does appear that some people have the view that as women we are not allowed to be offended by this, that we should just shut up and accept this term as the new way to define us, as to not assign us a new category would offend trans-women.

I am finding it more and more offensive the more I read.

If anyone refers to me as a cis woman, I will report it as a personal attack, and if I see it used to describe someone else, I will report it as an offensive word.

I am female, I don't need another descriptor thanks.

I don't think those rules would be workable either, but I agree with the sentiment 100%.

I wish we could also ban the following:

"I don't personally find it offensive ergo it is not offensive and anyone who claims it is needs to get a grip."

They have and at the top of the page there is a link to their comment

Have MNHQ commented on this yet?

I can't imagine such a detailed rule would be workable. Putting it in the talk guidelines would only add to the misconception that MN is a hotbed of transphobia and make us even more of a target for MRAs etc.

I dislike the word and wouldn't refer to myself in that way

I certainly feel I identify as "female gender" but I think for me it's a political/sociological thing. I identify with women's "struggle" and want to stand with the brave woman of the past and present who fought/fight for women's rights.

I am not convinced that being a feminist is a gender identity.

When I first learnt about feminism, "gender" was used to mean the social role that was artificially constructed by patriarchy and then forced on women to oppress us. (I think the transactivists mean the same, actually, even though they phrase it differently. That's why I consider "cis" an insult.)
I am aware that gender is inflicted on me on a daily basis, because that's how patriarchy works, but I do not identify with it. I only identify with the struggle against it.

And the word I use for that is "feminist".

I don't want to ban 'cis' - far rather carry on educating the people who use it, most of whom do so from the best of trying-to-be-liberal intentions without understanding the full significance.

I would like unevidenced accusations of 'transphobia' to be deleted as readily as similar accusations of racism are, though.

In my experience ( I really am throwing caution to the winds on this thread!) gender-neutral means male.

"Also I don't particularly identify with the idea of "female gender" and many women feel this way."

Would you be prepared to say more about what you mean by this? I mean, obviously you identify as a panda but what does female gender mean to you?

I certainly feel I identify as "female gender" but I think for me it's a political/sociological thing. I identify with women's "struggle" and want to stand with the brave woman of the past and present who fought/fight for women's rights.

Perhaps, Errol. But it's only really used in connection to transgenderism.

Wiki suggests it's the invention of a 'sexologist' and sociologists.

No one should redefine women as cis-women just because trans women exist.

^ This

Also I don't particularly identify with the idea of "female gender" and many women feel this way. So to me it is not only bullshit but whole cis thing is an inaccurate label for many people, whatever their sex. I do not want it forced upon me and my daughters.

Yes it is bengal. They want there to be 2 subdivisions of women - transwomen and ciswomen, rather than using the actual definition of women (adult human female) which obviously excludes them, as it is impossible for a male to become a female.

I don't want to ban it. I just don't want to use it or have it used about me. If other women want to play "cool girl" that's fine with me. I got very over excited about gay rights back in the day, before I realized that gay people are just as capable of being arseholes as straight people. And gay men are just as capable of misogyny as straight ones......

I agree with MNHQ tbh - banning words doesn't really work. It's up to us to report gynophobic or (genuinely) transphobic posts.

God forbid they offend the trans folk, with their superior rights.