Hey MNHQ. Would it be possible to have a discussion about how SN issues/threads are handled on the main boards. ( pt 2)

There's also the posters intent too, that comes into it alot.

Randomperson 2: "So and so is a moron, with stupid moronic behaviour"
Randomperson 1: "Please don't use moron in that context
Randomperson 2: "Sorry didn't know it was offensive, i won't use it again"

Absolutly fine, no need for a deletion.

vsThis:

Randomperosn 2: "So and so is a moron, with stupid moronic behaviour"
Randomperson 1: "Please don't use moron in that context"
Randomperosn 2: "Grow Da fuck up, i can use what i like it's welsh for carrot. Moron moron moron"

That was a very non sequitur post.

From a position of ignorance I'd say that ASC includes ASD - so each term would be appropriate in different particular sentences.

When Jon did a very sensitive documentary about OCD the doctor said the difference between a disorder and a condition is the extent to which it affects your life. From memory the distinction for obsessive compulsion was whether it occupied 10% or more of the patient's time.

I feel like that's a useful distinction (not necessarily a useful number). I have a hearing impairment but it probably affects less than 5% of my normal daily life at a guess. A person with a "very mild" ASC might be able to live in society with very few adjustments, whereas a person with a more severe ASC might never be able to live independently (for example) which would have a more far reaching effect and would make an ASD label more appropriate - to the extent that labels are ever appropriate or helpful.

Since the disorder label has more to do with the person's ability to function in the world as it stands, one might hypothesise that adjustments to the world would make more difference than a "cure" for the patient ...

I don't see anything wrong with it particularly. But I think it's obvious to see why some would.

If I want a fight all I need to do is take my lovely ds to a cafe for lunch... Or to Tesco....

rainman obviously, not the computergame character with floating hands.

That does make sense, as the whole "high functioning", "low functioning" thing tend to make people think of "More normal autism" and "rayman autism". (Sorry)

However it's not like that at all.

So it would simplify it all.

Crikey. It's a mine field really into what the correct term is

I tend to belive the senco but in the past that's been a big mistake this one is running a unit in MS

I was told by my doctor and a senco that all new diagnoses are ASC now as things like asperges, HFA confuse the issue as its still same three triads involved. But HFA seems to imply people with autism are not all impacted by the three areas. I haven't checked NICE maybe it's wrong

I don't thing 2boys is picking a fight.

I'm not picking a fight. Not at all. I have enough of those in real life. I'm just asking the question. I don't mean to offend anyone

ASD is still in use, and HFA hasn't been replaced with anything to my knowledge.

Think we are confusing Disablism with using terms some people don't like. I don't think calling Autism a Disorder or condition is "bad" but o would equally under stand if term Disorder implies it's something needs to be fixed or can be cured not part of someone unique wiring if you see what I mean.

I think MN should have a guest blogger who can explain the term better and give examples. Often some terms and phrases are so common people can't see harm.

Well ASD would offend it seems

Samcro I think that it's such a fine line between deliberate disablism and accidental. Ie, if I used the word idiot or described someone as "autistic" I would never mean to offend but it could offend. That isn't me being inflammatory, it's just I genuinely wouldn't know.

It would be useful to have some guidelines for people who are unaware why certain phrases or words are offensive. Obviously certain words don't need to even be mentioned for everyone to know they're offensive!

Not everyone knows that the terms like HFA and ASD have been replaced. That's all. In more general terms