MNHQ - are they disabilist?

You pointed that out to me once from the other thread, not 'more than once' and you said I did it on this thread.

Where?

Maybe I'm naive but I like to think that people for the most part aren't being malicious or nasty or disablist on purpose, rather they are clumsily navigating a subject that they don't understand.

But people are terrified on here to even ask or speak about something to do with SN in case they get attacked or accused of things. And that's not ok either.

she needs to apologise said more than once.

Not interested in arguing further, have made my point.

My child has a hidddn disability yet I didn't jump all over that OP. Yet I am accused of jumping on innocent people by someone who DID jump on OP.

Bloody unbelievable here sometimes

Fanjo please remind me where I demanded apologies.

Sorry..*miffle

MiffleTheIntrovert 100% agree

No, I don't understand Miffle but I do understand how upsetting my sister finds it when she gets shit from people for using bb spaces, for example.

It's like muffle says. If you are dealing with disabilities and get angry it's a license for people to call you all sorts and claim you are just looking for an excuse to slam people who aren't disabled/ part of a brigade/ just wanting to attack innocent people. Like happened to OP on deleted thread.

Sick of it, but still won't shut up and not address disablism.

As someone said before if you are addressing disablism/disabled you are somehow expected to be all nice fluffy and humble even if really upset and reading outrageous stuff.

i think its all about keeping disabled people in their place.
you can have goady threads like the one running now. you report and just get told that the op has been around a while and has no form!!
yet the op is still goady. the thread is still full of some nasty stuff and yet thats ok.
but as it seems I no longer have a child with sn(yep really) as they are an adult!! maybe I should shut up.
this op should be allowed to post in anger.

Anyone who uses "play the xxx card" is already being unreasonable, IMHO. It's such ashittything to say.

Apologies. Didn't mean to offend with that turn of phrase. Disabilities aren't an excuse for certain things, is what I'm saying.

WalterMitty

We'll have to disagree. I didn't think there was much gentle posting on the thread.

She didn't pick on him because he didn't look disabled. She was fucked off because he was the latest in a regular morning blocking of a blue badge place by van drivers and taxis that don't have blue badges.

And Walter having a nephew with autism may give you some insight, but you simply won't understand what it's like to live as a disabled adult and the problems we face.

It's a bit like "some of my best friends are black".

You don't understand and your posts demonstrate this.

We have very different ideas of "demanding" fanjo!

Where's the demand for an apology? Where is it on this thread?

Too

*reported post (direct link)

Waltermittythesequel (Wed 08-Jun-16 09:46:50):

I understand that. However, when my scared five year old was being screamed at, I didn't give a shite that it hadn't happened to him before and probably wouldn't since. I was so, so upset and furious. I still, even in that moment, wouldn't slam every disabled person and use a derogatory term.Look, this isn't even an issue in the big picture. But OP would get a lot further and a lot more sympathy if she wasn't so bloody nasty. And regardless of whether other people think it's offensive, she has offended people. She needs to apologise*.

The last line. Direct copy and paste. Don't appreciate being accused of lying.

Anyone who uses "play the xxx card" is already being unreasonable, IMHO. It's such a shitty thing to say.

Well, what's the betting this thread gets deleted to. I've reported my earlier post. It will be interesting to see what happens.

And indeed you are demanding an apology again today from her. Point made,

What??

Eh no you didn't!!!

I have never demanded an apology. You're either lying to get at me or you're confusing me with someone else.

Half the problem is that if people put up disablist posts (and there's fucking loads at the moment - probably from the bloody Daily Mail coverage) all that happens is the post gets deleted. As far as I can see, the poster is just free to keep on posting, or more likely just name change and keep on posting).

Absolutely agree with the three strikes and you're out approach - if people say disablist stuff (or racist or homophobic etc) they aren't the type of posters we want on MN, surely? There doesn't seem to be any action taken against the posters, just the posts, and this needs addressing. I also think the NC facility should be suspended after a deletion for disablism so it would be a lot clearer to other posters if a certain poster is a problem.

The other half of the problem is double standards, and whilst I think MNHQ don't actually mean to be disablist, they let a lot of stuff stand which shouldn't but are quick to delete other stuff. That SN in the park thread was a horror, if anything should be deleted that should - an AIBU with SN in the title, and the post itself was pretty much a shout out to disablist people to congregate. That poster who called Fanjo a fucking twat should be banned - and this is just for a start! Just one example. That thread was full of horrible offensive postsand goady posters.

I also think we need some awareness around adults with disabilities - all MNHQ seem to be able to do these days is link to This Is My Child.

Disablist posts and attitudes are really rife on MN ATM - I've not even had a reply to my reports as far as I can see. It feels unwelcoming, it's certainly getting me down and it reflects badly on the site as a whole. It definitely needs action and addressing - not just copying users posts and saying "this" or saying chase me if I forget to sort something. It's actually quite surprising to me that MNHQ are acting like this - normally I have nothing but praise for them and think they do a bloody difficult job. But this doesn't seem to be taken seriously and I'm sure lots of us feel either un heard or silenced.

And indeed you are demanding an apology again today from her. Point made,

I do think at the start it was gentle, yes Pag. And every post she'd had before that had been rightly very supportive.

Walter,.no I saw you demanding an apology from the OP on the previous thread.

Wading in and demanding apology?

Have you confused me with someone else??

But then; this is your form isn't it? I have seen you for years now jumping all over posters who post innocent, innocuous questions regarding SN.

And I have said on here before, I have a much loved autistic nephew who has a slew of complex needs.

And I don't appreciate people like the OP being so disdainful of his need for bb spaces because he looks ok. But I don't blame everyone with a physical disability for the behaviour of one or two.

As I said in the first thread; my child was terrified by being verbally attacked by a man in a wheelchair once for literally no reason. That man had to be removed by security. Do I blame every single man I see in a wheelchair? Of course I bloody don't.

Don't even start with me. I am not disablist or an apologist.

See Walter I didn't witness a great deal of 'gentle' pointing out.
And a poster coming on who is distressed and angry is usually allowed to express that. The thread I read with the poster calling a man with mental illness a loony and nuts remains filled with posters saying 'but she's just venting' . I've seen posts about wanting to punch their partner in the face that have been treated more sympathetically

The etiquette of posting when pissed off is always a factor but there does seem to be a double standard.

There was a great deal of outrage that she was expressing anger rather than being helpless and grateful for support.