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MNHQ - are they disabilist?

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Sixweekstowait · 09/06/2016 20:36

Having had a thread deleted with no communication with me until I asked ( but then I'm disabled and so invisible) , having read on the second class citizen thread of examples of disabilist language which HQ defend, I am beginning to think they are. I now think they were really really wrong to delete my thread and that they have NO IDEA about the everyday discrimination that people with disabilities face in even trying to travel to work, care even less and I would like to know how many of their staff are disabled?

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/06/2016 22:36

Hope so.

Disability issues are certainly to the fore on MN at the moment.

lougle · 09/06/2016 22:32

You're right, of course, fanjo, but whoever expects good results from getting angry? Grin

It sounds like there's been a breakdown in communication and the OP feels that she has been unfairly treated by MNHQ because of her disability. Hopefully, MNHQ will be talking with the OP behind the scenes to clear things up.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 09/06/2016 22:31

Is this becoming a rehash of the last thread? I don't know, I wasn't on it.

I have been extremely angry when HQ have deleted threads of mine which became unpleasant through no fault of my own, so I completely understand the frustration.

Does that make HQ disablist though?

I think that's an unfair accusation and am happy enough to defend hq here.

ThisPanCan · 09/06/2016 22:30

Few fanjo I know I don't.

I think it's best for me to use the analogy of "stop opening your mouth so words stop tumbling out of it".

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 22:30

But, again, she doesn't have to persuade MNHQ.

She is expressing anger. Telling her that she should be more likeable to get what she regards simply as fair treatment is patronising and unnecessary.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/06/2016 22:26

Yes but who always acts sensibly when angry

ThisPanCan · 09/06/2016 22:24

I thought 'Probably' was soothing enough...

Yes of course there is a right to anger - I've expressed that massively over 'justice' questions over the years well enough, on MN and in RL. And usually not to my benefit, so being less than 'cool' about stuff is fine. I just didn't see being 'sneery' to MNHQ whose mind you wish to alter is best.

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 22:22

OurBlanche

A regular occurrence. I'm usually on my own with my humour Grin

Samcro · 09/06/2016 22:21

So if the ops thread was deleted cos it turned in to a bu fight, why are others left that do the same

lougle · 09/06/2016 22:19

MNHQ do delete threads when they descend into bunfights. I didn't read the OP, but if they are very volatile, they will provoke a strong reaction.

How is it disablist to delete the thread?

Blu · 09/06/2016 22:18

I had to stop reading and posting on the thread and go to work.

If I had reported it it would have been for posters telling Bourdic that she us a twat and telling her to fuck off. The phrase 'walkie talkie' gave me a wry smile, actually, and I was enjoying the start of a discussion about whether it was derogatory / offensive. (I didn't find it so, really).

I like Pagwatch's perspective: if a point is right, it is right.

But as I said, Bourdic, it might have been deleted because of general descent into bunfight, against you as much as anything else.

weirdsister · 09/06/2016 22:16

I read (and posted on) the start of Bourdic's thread and then had to go to work, but it had already descended into a few posters telling her to fuck off at that stage.

I can understand why Bourdic is cross, as MN could have altered her post rather than delete the thread, but I don't know how bad the thread was by the time it was taken down.

OurBlanche · 09/06/2016 22:13
Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 22:11
fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 09/06/2016 22:11

FwIW I don't think they are disablist. Bit would love to see them/you on it much more and more quickly when posters are.

Bourdic is angry Pan. That is not "poor". She is angry and rightfully so.

ThisPanCan · 09/06/2016 22:09

Probably.

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 22:08

I know. It's probably my tone. I can be uppity.

ThisPanCan · 09/06/2016 22:07

Hmmmmm.....nope, can't agree Pag. But we aren't going to agree here no matter how much we type, I suspect.

OurBlanche · 09/06/2016 22:04

Quite right, PanCan. So why focus on it?

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 22:03

No . I agree. It isn't the point.
So critiquing her manner probably wasn't helpful.

ThisPanCan · 09/06/2016 22:02

No she probs doesn't give a care who she 'offends'. And why she should she right now. FWIW I don't care who she offends. But that isn't really the point though.
The OP was about whether MN are disabilist. And we have differing opinions about that.

Samcro · 09/06/2016 21:56

So theop hs toplaynice to keep people hppy.
So why the fuck are there so many nasty threads on mn about disability
There are 2 running now, left to stand, both have some relly nasty posts, yet the threads areleft
Most of the vile post are left.
But get one angry disabled person start a thread and they get told touse a better tone
This cant be right

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 21:53

(Having said that I'd be lovely to Olivia because she's fabulous but that rather pisses on my point)?

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 21:51

I don't think she gives a fuck about hearts and minds.
I'm not sure why she has to TBH.

If she's angry, she's angry.
You can disagree with her but I think telling her to be nice and people might treat her differently is really patronising.
If I were angry I'd tell you to fuck off. I'm not sure why she has a responsibility to behave better than I would?

Pagwatch · 09/06/2016 21:49

I'm probably attuned because I'm currently trying to teach my 13 year old DD that it's not her job to make every else feel fabulous.