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MNHQ here: what do you think about manufacturers marketing wipes as 'flushable'?

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RowanMumsnet · 24/05/2016 12:00

Hello

We've been contacted by a major utilities company asking Mumsnet to throw its weight behind a campaign it's running on the marketing of 'flushable' wet wipes and 'moist' toilet tissue.

The organisation that's contacted us says that 80% of all sewer blockages are the result of sewer misuse, and that 70% of these blockages are the result of wet wipes. They want manufacturers to stop being able to label wipes as being 'flushable'.

They are going to write to the Advertising Standards Authority complaining that consumers are being misled by the packaging and claims on many of these products. They say consumers are encouraged to believe that these products break down harmlessly when flushed - whereas in truth, they don't break down after flushing and can end up causing blocks, leaks and flooding.

We know from previous conversations about tampons and sanpro that MNers tend to be stalwart defenders of the public sewage system, so we said we'd ask you whether this was a campaign you'd like us to swing behind.

As ever, it would be great to hear what you think.

Thanks
MNHQ

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tilder · 25/05/2016 20:12

Also, I agree with pp. People are squeamish about things like this. About the fact they shit and have periods. They want to get rid of whatever they use quickly. Flush and it's gone. I find it weird.

Poo, pee, paper in the loo. Nothing else. A bin in the loo is normal ime. Everyone knows what they are for and what goes in them.

ColdCottage · 25/05/2016 20:06

It makes me cross. I think it's irresponsible to encourage people to flush them!

cozietoesie · 25/05/2016 20:05

And 'flushable' is a really great word from a manufacturer's perspective - means one thing to the lawyers but something else to consumers.

cozietoesie · 25/05/2016 20:02

People trust labels. There's a sort of 'It must be true because they wouldn't be allowed to say it if it weren't'. A feeling that there's someone (else) checking on things somewhere. Sad

itshappenedagain · 25/05/2016 19:45

I used to think they broke down, but after a blockage caused by them, I knew the truth. Can't believe that they stay fly sable as people trust the people that make them.

RaisingSteam · 25/05/2016 19:43

It's this sort of rubbish marketing that is up-selling us all to (medical issues aside) completely unnecessary levels of "hygiene".

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 25/05/2016 19:40

It would appear they do.

RaisingSteam · 25/05/2016 19:38

I think that's it, the fact it disappears round your U bend doesn't mean it will keep going for five miles of pipe to the wastewater treatment plant without settling and starting to build up a blockage. Never mind overflowing into the storm water system and ending up in the river/on the beach. Do people need educating that there isn't actually a poo fairy? or a wipe fairy?

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 25/05/2016 19:31

Manufacturers get away with it because the wipe are, in fact, flushable.
They can physically be flushed down the loo.

Is it misleading? Yes, but their claims are technically true.

The fact that they are an environmental disaster is something they choose to ignore.

Abraid2 · 25/05/2016 19:18

It seems so lax that companies can have this flushable nonsense on their packaging and cause so much trouble!

icebearforpresident · 25/05/2016 18:11

I'm all for mumsnet supporting this campaign. I'm at the end of a drain that includes a public toilet and when the drain blocks it backs up into MY garden. Not just faeces but tampons,towels,wipes and even nappies. I'm firmly of the opinion that anyone who flushes anything other than toilet roll should be sent to swim in a sewar.

peacefuleasyfeeling · 25/05/2016 18:08

Yep, excellent initiative.

prettybird · 25/05/2016 16:57

No - but they went into the bathroom bin not the loo and at least are biodegradable Grin

StickTheDMWhereTheSunDontShine · 25/05/2016 16:28

Northumbrian Water have been promoting safe flushing for a few years, now, with the help of Dwaine Pipe.
www.nwl.co.uk/your-home/your-services/love-your-drain.aspx

tabpepsi · 25/05/2016 15:58

if a wipe pack says flushable, then most people will think you can do just that, if not its false / misleading and i think the utility company should write to the asa.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 25/05/2016 15:53

Presumably you combed out those cotton wool balls and used them for the next nappy change Prettybird rather than disposing of them? Wink

tilder · 25/05/2016 15:49

Iirc there have been legal challenges in America.

prettybird · 25/05/2016 15:42

I hate the disposable/easy care society we've become Hmm. Maybe it's a function of being that little bit older (mid 50s Blush)

When ds (15 now) was a baby, we used cotton wool balls, water and a top 'n' tail bowl when his nappy was changed. Only used wet wipes (not flushed Grin) when we were out and about.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 25/05/2016 15:16

But thank you any way Flowers

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 25/05/2016 15:16

I was briefly very excited. And then I saw there were no cleaning wipes. It's disposable cleaning wipes I'm after that can be composted.

GreenMarkerPen · 25/05/2016 14:58

they exist already

thejanuarys · 25/05/2016 14:57

Totally agree it's a good campaign to back. Not only are these wipes bad for pipes, the chemicals in them are polluting the water. And we already flush gown way too many chemicals already so any reduction is good

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 25/05/2016 14:50

I LOVE a cleaning wipe. I would love them even more if they could go in my compost bin!

Please someone invent these. I don't mind if you also want to do the bum wipes too but they must go in the compost, not the loo.

GreenMarkerPen · 25/05/2016 14:46

Manufacturers need to stop marketing them as flushable, and develop biodegradable wipes.
unless they are properly degradable/compostable but then they should go in the garden/food waste bin.

GreenMarkerPen · 25/05/2016 14:44

I hate those cleaning wipes
they stink and leave a weird residue on surfaces
warm soapy water+cloth cleans so much better!

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