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Anti-Religious Trolling On Mumsnet

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DioneTheDiabolist · 26/03/2016 00:36

I get that not everyone is religious and that some people are very anti-religious (some with good reasons).

But some MNetters are religious, others are simply curious. So how come so many threads are allowed to be derailed by anti-religious trolls? Today a thread about Good Friday was deleted because a troll came on. FFS, it's Easter! Threads about Islam are regularly derailed by Islamophobes. On a thread seeking information on Judaism in the Philosophy & Religion topic, a troll has posted LMFAO. Ok, serious question, why does the Jewish God make all men wear a funny beards? She continues venting for a few posts before eventually exiting the thread saying that she is on drugs because It's Easter, party time.

She is a MN regular, like most of the anti-religious trolls here. I have reported her posts but they still stand.

Trolls are not interested in knowing what other people think or believe. They have no desire to discuss the point of actual threads and rarely start threads of their own regarding their issues with religion or belief. They just derail threads in the hope of driving all talk of religion and different beliefs off MN. And they are succeeding.

Why are MNHQ allowing this to happen? Deleting threads instead of dealing with posters? Allowing blatant anti-religious trolling to derail threads that people may find supportive or informative? Is MN a religion free zone? Because if it is, that's ok. I just think that religious posters should be told. Then they can go elsewhere if they wish to discuss their beliefs.

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Ohfuckaducky · 26/03/2016 09:17

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Abraid2 · 26/03/2016 09:14

But I don't regard any god as divine so I'd have no issue saying god or buddha or allah or seth or any other god

You've missed the point.

OutwiththeOutCrowd · 26/03/2016 09:14

I actually agree with you there Capsium. Not every thread is an opportunity to discuss whether God exists or not. If a vulnerable person posts looking for spiritual support or advice from Christians, I think atheists should hold back from turning it into yet another 'God exists/no he doesn't' thread.

Ohfuckaducky · 26/03/2016 09:11

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SagaAndMartinsLiftConvos · 26/03/2016 09:10

I'm an atheist but I agree OP. I do cringe when people inevitably start making their hilarious cracks about sky fairies and spaghetti monsters and so on. Just seems a bit sixth-form really.

I'll have a problem with someone's beliefs as soon as they start (a) trying to impose them on me, or (b) hurting people in their name.

I don't even mind pamphleters and JWs really. Takes two seconds to nod and smile and take the tract for the recycling, say thanks and bye.

capsium · 26/03/2016 09:08

Bertrand the thing is, that it is not only prayer threads that believers want to share their experiences and advice within the context of belief though. I am thinking particularly of threads which seek advice regarding aspects of Christian worship. It does seem to derail a thread when someone comes on just to say, in not so many words, "Why bother, it is all rubbish."

This is something that does seem to happen and whilst it sometimes can lead to some interesting discussions, it can mean that believers miss out on being able to properly talk about aspects of their faith amongst other believers or even non believers who wish to properly consider the faith questions they are asking. Their initial questions (reason for posting) are simply dismissed, not discussed and the topic moves on to challenging / defending Christian belief - which is what fills many threads. Though, as I have said, some of the asides are interesting and perhaps worthwhile but it would be nice to be able to discuss aspects of belief and religious practise more in depth.

SurferJet · 26/03/2016 09:08

Wouldn't it be easier to just throw the leaflets in the bin ?
I get loads of leaflets shoved through my door, mostly pizza delivery - I hate pizza, but I wouldn't dream of chasing the guy up the street.

Pipbin · 26/03/2016 09:05

I find the use of Sky fairy etc highly insulting and abusive.

I find getting told that my IVF ending in miscarriage was because I didn't pray highly offensive and insulting too.

Ohfuckaducky · 26/03/2016 09:04

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KillBillHill · 26/03/2016 09:03

I posted on the Good Friday thread because I genuinely didn't know the importance of 3pm. One particular poster was horrid on there. You wouldn't talk like that to a religious colleague or friend or even stranger in real life. It's very easy to spout shit behind your electronic device though isn't it 😒

Backingvocals · 26/03/2016 09:02

I am an atheist and anti-religion. I'm not rude to people though. I wouldn't belittle anyone's beliefs but I do think it's ok in the context of a discussion about religion to question the mystical elements of it.

DaphneWhitethigh · 26/03/2016 09:02

I wish I could catch the people dropping leaflets for magicians and exorcists at it fuckaducky. Now they are actually evil.

YesterdayOnceMore · 26/03/2016 09:02

I find the use of Sky fairy etc highly insulting and abusive.

Ohfuckaducky · 26/03/2016 09:00

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DaphneWhitethigh · 26/03/2016 09:00

OMFG isn't swearing at God in that sense though. The "F" is merely an intensifier. And it's a phrase so embedded in online culture that it would be a huge struggle for MN to outlaw it. (Although they are prepared to fight on disablist words that are ubiquitous elsewhere so it's not unprecedented).

Pipbin · 26/03/2016 08:59

So it's my fault that I get religious leaflets put through my door? I should move? Where do you suggest? I have lived all over the country in cities and villages and it has all been the same.
I'm not saying all those things happen every day but the certainly happen more than once over a year.
People are allowed to shove a leaflet through my door saying that if I believe then I will be reunited with my dead children (I don't have dead children but that's not the point), but if I tell them that it's all a load of made up bollocks I am the one in the wrong.

Ohfuckaducky · 26/03/2016 08:59

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SurferJet · 26/03/2016 08:56

Grin lol ( sorry, I shouldn't laugh on a religious thread )

Abraid2 · 26/03/2016 08:56

Sweat really is revolting on titles.

It is swearing at an entity that quite a number of people regard as divine. Or, at someone that a lot of people love. Like seeing a thread entitled *Abraid2's fucking mother'.

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BertrandRussell · 26/03/2016 08:52

Sweary, not sweaty!

BertrandRussell · 26/03/2016 08:51

I don't like sweaty titles either, actually. But why should ones with "God" in them be special cases?

Abraid2 · 26/03/2016 08:48

Try getting MNHQ to edit thread titles such as 'Oh my fu.kin. God', but spelled out in full. They won't.

I'm agnostic now but think it's awful.

Ohfuckaducky · 26/03/2016 08:45

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Parrotmore · 26/03/2016 08:45

On another thread I reported someone who suggested the op had committed incest- it was allowed to stay as apparently didn't break guidelines. It's so subjective to the 'teams' opinion and I find it appalling

BertrandRussell · 26/03/2016 08:43

I'm not sure that discussion "that thread" is helpful. It's gone- so it's one person's view against others- and all very subjective.