Anti-Religious Trolling On Mumsnet

triptrap according to his doctor.

Oops, sorry, unnecessary duplicating post. That'll teach me not to read properly.

"Augusta tbf it's more like starting a thread to talk about the EU and posters piling in to say they hate all politics and politicians and how it was all a load of rubbish."

Not it isn't. It's more like starting a thread about The EU and getting all stroppy if anyone posts about Brexit because you only want to read stuff about staying in.

Augusta tbf it's more like starting a thread to talk about the EU and posters piling in to say they hate all politics and politicians and how it was all a load of rubbish.

When people want to discuss aspects of religious faith, they want to discuss that, not whether religious faith itself is worth having.

It's about not being a twat and leaving a thread alone if you know you don't have anything useful to contribute. It's about respecting someone who clearly doesn't want to have a debate but is asking for ideas and starting your own thread if you want a debate.

But no-one on here gets to announce that they don't want a debate and don't want anyone disagreeing with them and automatically gets their way. It's a discussion board, that's what people do, they discuss. Imagine if you started a thread saying "A question about the EU" and demanded that no-one who doesn't support EU membership wholeheartedly contributes - it just won't happen. Why should those who want to talk about religion be any different?

Bertrand well, the talking to God thread certainly went off point numerous times, I pointed it out in my posts on that thread at the time. Thankfully the thread was not totally derailed that particular time.

Ok - I don't agree with you

But you aren't arguing the point. You are making statements and not backing them up with any evidence.

Which on a thread where you are asking MNHQ to take action seems a little pointless. They will want evidence. The threads you have linked to do not support your case.

Yes it does. And there are plenty more. I'm not going to argue the point any further. People can make up their own minds.

But I do hope that MNHQ does more to address the issue.

But that hasn't happened on the threads you've linked to- even if it does happen on others. Can you find one where it does and link to it? Because I don't really understand.

Yes I have read them. Amd it's being going on for years.

"Nobody can tell someone what to post but there is a consistent theme on this board where a poster approaches a thread with the specific intention to vandalise and derail the thread."

None of the threads you have linked to are even remotely like that. Have you read them?

Nobody can tell someone what to post but there is a consistent theme on this board where a poster approaches a thread with the specific intention to vandalise and derail the thread.

It's about not being a twat and leaving a thread alone if you know you don't have anything useful to contribute. It's about respecting someone who clearly doesn't want to have a debate but is asking for ideas and starting your own thread if you want a debate.

I don't think there is anything unreasonable about that.

I could link to loads of threads where people post about their concerns about Christian influence on society, and Christians try to "shut down the debate" by saying "That's just how it is" "It's a Christian country" "Suck it up" or "why are you worried, nobody's trying to convert you"

So basically you are saying that only Evqngelical Christians should answer the question "Wha is your experience of Evangelical Churches?" even if others actually have valuable contributions to make? And only religious people should answer "How can I help religious dd" when it seems that the 6 year old concerned appears to being taught Creationism somewhere, and is being upset because dinosaurs don't fit into the world view she is being taught?

Usually on post 2 or 3 - let's shut this discussion down before it even starts.

I didn't read the full thread ducky but from the bit I remember reading you didn't need to comment on what other's said, just say what you'd be doing.

I've said before I don't disbelieve you regarding your experiences. It seems part and parcel of MN for people to get suspicious of people trolling, people have expressed disbelief about stuff I've said before. I try not to take this too personally, myself, otherwise I'd dwell on stuff too much.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/2461731-How-can-I-help-religious-DD

There is a theme on these threads for some rude poster to jump in with 'well what is the point - God doesn't exist'

Conversely there are threads asking for the opinions of atheists. So it is in no way the case that people generally feel that atheists shouldn't post their views but that it should not be for the purpose to derail a thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/2437574-A-question-about-talking-to-God

I've just found loads even recently. See here;

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/philosophy_religion_spirituality/2582034-Please-talk-to-me-about-your-opinion-of-evangelical-style-worship

People's bad experiences with some Christians in real life is not really what this thread is about though?

This thread is about people being able to talk about aspects of religious faith and belief, on a thread dedicated to the subject, without being constantly interrupted by people saying they disagree with the religion.

An analogy would some people, who have had bad experience with some particular medical professionals, constantly interrupting a thread full of medical professionals, saying they are all wrong and not to be trusted, when what is being discussed is a particular course of medical treatment - in terms of it being a derailment.