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Original poster

is Iamwhateveryousayiam back yet?

68 replies

YouAreMyRain · 03/03/2016 11:28

Hi MNHQ,
Just wondering if the OP of this thread

Did you know that men are being given women's awards and leadership positions??
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2581275-Did-you-know-that-men-are-being-given-womens-awards-and-leadership-positions

Is still banned, when their posts haven't been removed and no one can see any reason to ban them?

It would be awful if women's voices were being censored and silenced on the Trans debate, which is happening everywhere else, wouldn't it?

OP posts:
Shutthatdoor · 03/03/2016 18:39

FWIW previous warnings were for things like 'reverse-racism' and a previous post on a trans thread. Not being a troll.

How do you actually know that is all it was..

IPityThePontipines · 03/03/2016 18:38

MNHQ can't win. They are told they don't firm enough action against trolls, then when they stop PBP, people start complaining about that too.

You don't have "Freedom of speech" on Mumsnet, it's a privately owned forum with a long list of rules, you don't obey those rules, they stop you posting. That's it. Not sure what people need to be "afraid" of.

Original poster
YouAreMyRain · 03/03/2016 18:24

So MNHQs policy on the OPs of contentious threads is "Ban first, find a reason later"

So much for freedom of speech.

Be afraid people, be very afraid.

OP posts:
ScoutsMam · 03/03/2016 18:17

This thread however, stands.
MRA's R US

ScoutsMam · 03/03/2016 18:16

And if so, why was the thread and all posts allowed to stand but not the op?

She was banned for being a new poster in contentious topics.
So they asked for details of previous log ins.
She gave them.
They were then checked.

I understand she has been banned previously but if that thread is what lead to her recent suspension/ban doesn't that mean it breaks the guidelines in some way?

Nope, ban first, then find the reason.

FWIW previous warnings were for things like 'reverse-racism' and a previous post on a trans thread. Not being a troll.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 03/03/2016 18:13

^ that is basically my question, but much easier to read!

WilLiAmHerschel · 03/03/2016 18:07

Is the thread mentioned in the OP the reason the OP was banned and looked into this time? And if so, why was the thread and all posts allowed to stand but not the op? I understand she has been banned previously but if that thread is what lead to her recent suspension/ban doesn't that mean it breaks the guidelines in some way?

VikingVolva · 03/03/2016 17:34

"without fear of accusation or threat. Well mostly, anyway"

Precisely.

Talk guidelines lead to posts beyond the pale being deleted, and can lead to a ban.

Finding yourself regularly on threads you are in harmony with is however fluke or selection bias.

HumphreyCobblers · 03/03/2016 17:22

I feel very grateful Mumsnet is such a safe space"

MN is not a safe space. It is an open internet site.

Of course you are right. I should have been more specific, I am grateful we can discuss this issue here without fear of accusation or threat. Well mostly, anyway.

Shutthatdoor · 03/03/2016 16:41

Do PBP have to do something 'wrong' to be re-banned? I ask not just because of this but cause netmums did it to me - re-banned me for being a PBP without me doing anything ban-worthy

Becca has said they had a lot of behaviour warnings accross different topics.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 03/03/2016 16:39

I read it as there isnt a specific problem with what they posted, just that they are a PBP and as such arent allowed here.

Do PBP have to do something 'wrong' to be re-banned? I ask not just because of this but cause netmums did it to me - re-banned me for being a PBP without me doing anything ban-worthy

GooseberryRoolz · 03/03/2016 16:36

But the posts are still up, so HQ deem the posts okay (?)

Shutthatdoor · 03/03/2016 16:35

So does that mean the post is fine then?

No it means they are a PBP and won't be allowed back.

Osmiornica · 03/03/2016 16:30

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

VikingVolva · 03/03/2016 16:24

"I feel very grateful Mumsnet is such a safe space"

MN is not a safe space. It is an open internet site.

WaitrosePigeon · 03/03/2016 16:11

It's clear to me, a PBP, like Becca has confirmed. What a shame.

MNHQ
BeccaMumsnet · 03/03/2016 16:05

Hi all, we really are very sorry that this has taken so long to resolve. As we said to iam in our email yesterday evening, we were actually horribly short staffed yesterday.

Because the details the poster supplied us with demonstrate that she is a previously banned poster with repeated behaviour warnings across a number of subject areas, we will unfortunately not be able to let her back on the site.

We really do hope this clarifies everything, but please do ask any further questions you may have.

Thanks all.

GooseberryRoolz · 03/03/2016 15:04

It's not clear to me.

WaitrosePigeon · 03/03/2016 14:43

There's clearly more going on behind the scenes.

Osmiornica · 03/03/2016 14:25

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Shutthatdoor · 03/03/2016 14:22

sunset it's not scary, you just don't know why. MNHQ have clearly suggested there's more to it than that thread.

Exactly

GooseberryRoolz · 03/03/2016 14:22

Perhaps some posters who are in touch with her have more idea why than the general MN populace does MyKingdom, and that is why they are expressing unease?

MyKingdomForBrie · 03/03/2016 14:20

sunset it's not scary, you just don't know why. MNHQ have clearly suggested there's more to it than that thread. I

ScoutsMam · 03/03/2016 14:16

.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts · 03/03/2016 14:06

Nothing yet?