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Gender specifications on your Mumsnet account: update

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SarahMumsnet · 20/01/2016 10:29

Morning folks,

Following on from last week’s thread about our asking you to sign up to Mumsnet as male or female, here’s where we’ve landed.

We’ve had a careful read of the thread, and done some more general reading around and investigation into how this is handled elsewhere, and we think the best way to proceed is to add the option “other” to the list of responses to the question of gender. Viz

Female
Male
Other (please specify) _

This is how lots of other sites navigate this, so we hope it’s not too controversial.

As ever when it comes to questions around gender, we’re aware that not everyone will agree, but this seems to us to be the most inclusive and sensible route to take.

Do let us know what you think.
MNHQ

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/01/2016 12:06

Agree with HairyLittleCarrot

I think it should ask sex, not gender, with of course a 2000 word explanation on the difference between sex and gender

Or how about

Are you male [ ]
Female [ ]
What do you identify as:...............

That way you get the sex info you want plus people can identify however they want

HairyLittleCarrot · 20/01/2016 12:05

Ego, I fall into the category of women you just mentioned. I'm not thrilled that an ovulation calendar doesn't apply to me any more, but I wouldn't dream of denying a shed load of other women access to a useful feature because I found it upsetting!

And I wouldn't support the decision to inconvenience or limit a majority for the sensitivities of a minority. In that or other examples I can think of.

Egosumquisum · 20/01/2016 12:05

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HairyLittleCarrot · 20/01/2016 12:01

SarahMumsnet

You just kind of stomped all over your own point a bit!

If you want to serve up ovulation calendars then you DEFINITELY don't want to know gender.

You want to know SEX

Same goes for mooncup advertisements etc.

Which was my point in the first place.

What MNHQ and pretty much everyone REALLY wants to know when they ask gender, is truthfully not 'how we feel we identify', but in fact whether we are biologically female or not.

So why not ask that?!

Egosumquisum · 20/01/2016 11:57

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SarahMumsnet · 20/01/2016 11:51

Hey everyone,

So: first up, you don't need to fill it in at all, if you'd rather not; MN will still accept your registration if you skip that question.

On the question of why we ask, the answer's twofold. In the first place, it can be useful to have demographic information about our users for campaigns and so forth. In the second, it's useful for us to know a bit about you as we hope, at some point down the line, to be able to tailor useful/relevant content to individuals - ie not to show you an ovulation calendar at the side of the thread you're on if you're male. Advertisers don't tend to ask us for data on gender at the minute (possibly because we're a site called Mumsnet Grin). However, as I said, you're under no obligation to fill this in at all if you don't want to.

HairyLittleCarrot, we're expecting to make the change in the next couple of days.

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Sparklingbrook · 20/01/2016 11:48

I am female. Sounds right to me.

Sparklingbrook · 20/01/2016 11:48

I joined in 2011 and don't even remember a box.

WhoKn0wsWhereTheMistletoes · 20/01/2016 11:46

I've got myself down as gender neutral in FB. I used to be female but the torrent of women-hating clickbait in my newsfeed stopped as soon as I turned neutral.

Samcro · 20/01/2016 11:45

i have been here since 2006 and never ticked the box. didn't even know it was there. so hardly think it matters in the big scheme of things.

Egosumquisum · 20/01/2016 11:45

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JugglingFromHereToThere · 20/01/2016 11:41

Oh, what do they use on FB Ego?
Just curious - And lazy!

Sparklingbrook · 20/01/2016 11:40

Well everyone has 5 years to decide what to put. Hope that's long enough.

I think MN does a census every now and again though.

Egosumquisum · 20/01/2016 11:39

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Sparklingbrook · 20/01/2016 11:36

It's a bit irrelevant to us that have already joined. Unless there's a census on it's way.

WhoKn0wsWhereTheMistletoes · 20/01/2016 11:34

That's fine, I will also put None.

YogaDrone · 20/01/2016 11:22

If this is the question I would say other and type in NONE.

I have no gender because I believe that gender is a social construct and has no relevance to me or society. My sex is female, but that's not what you are asking is it?

JugglingFromHereToThere · 20/01/2016 11:15

I don't really like the last "box" particularly "please specify"

I think "Other" and "Prefer not to say" would go further towards making everyone feel comfortable

Or as Sparkling says you could just leave it out altogether?

Egosumquisum · 20/01/2016 11:05

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HairyLittleCarrot · 20/01/2016 11:05

When do you plan to implement the changes, MNHQ?

BeyondBootcampsAgain · 20/01/2016 11:04

Though i do prefer there being no question at all, because why do you ask ??

BeyondBootcampsAgain · 20/01/2016 11:02

I quite like the idea of a 'tick which of these statements you identify with'
Could then include
I am a female
Or
I am a cisfenale
Or
I rject gender stereotyping

Tick as many as you want?

Egosumquisum · 20/01/2016 11:02

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SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 20/01/2016 11:02

Well what it also means is that if MN are invited onto the Today Programme or Woman's Hour, they can say things like '80% of our registered posters identify as female, and the consensus on the site is that [insert topic of the day]', or 'and X% of them say that they've experience sexual harassment in the workplace/at university' or whatever.

So basically there's a lot of potential for statistics to be misunderstood or misappropriated if the 80% who tick 'female' includes people who feel as though they are female. This wouldn't matter in all instances, but I could see it being problematic in some cases.

BeyondBootcampsAgain · 20/01/2016 11:00

Would "sex" with...
Male ◽️
Female◽️
Trans*◽️
...be appropriate?