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Can a representative from the BBC and Guardian be called to do a webchat to discuss events in Cologne on NYE?

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carlajean · 10/01/2016 09:36

Given the unprecedented volume of posts expressing anger/frustration with how the media (especially the Guardian and the BBC) covered events in Cologne on New Years Eve, would you please ask for a representative for those organisations to come and do a web chat? I think it would be useful.

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carlajean · 11/01/2016 14:10

well - at very least I want someone from MN to come on and say SOMETHING -

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TwatTheNinja · 11/01/2016 14:10

Yes to a web chat

hiddenhome2 · 11/01/2016 14:07

Yeah, Nigel will come on here Flinging Grin

hiddenhome2 · 11/01/2016 14:06

Ain't gonna happen people.

This is way too big and dirty for anyone to want to engage in. Nobody knows what to say because to admit the truth is like opening Pandora's box.

Flingingmelon · 11/01/2016 14:06

This is a great idea. But for the sake of being non partisan can we get a right wing view too?

Pinkchampchoccies · 11/01/2016 14:02

Hi MN, yes, I support a web chat very much, thank you.

LumelaMme · 11/01/2016 13:57

Cologne thread is now on its fourth incarnation. I think a web chat would be great.

And when did a topic last run to >3000 posts and not make it into Discussions of the Day?

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carlajean · 11/01/2016 08:55

so - Mumsnet - come on...

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YouGottaKeepEmSeparated · 10/01/2016 22:45

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hiddenhome2 · 10/01/2016 22:40

They are way too arrogant to come to this place and explain themselves.

I'm still reeling from the shock that their feminist writers hate women. I honestly had no idea that this is how feminism works Confused

I always suspected there was something going on under the surface when they began hating Germaine Greer, but it's a real disappointment tbh.

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carlajean · 10/01/2016 22:04

I know what you mean, but, given that the Cologne thread is so long, and contains so much anger about the Guardian's coverage, I think MN should at least ask and I think the paper has to answer what many of us feel.

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MumOnTheRunCatchingUp · 10/01/2016 21:58

Why would they want to come on mumsnet? It's just a forum. What would it achieve?

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carlajean · 10/01/2016 21:55

what I can't bear is the Guardian's constantly repeated mantra that anyone who questions their point of view is in the far right. They really don't engage in discussion at all. that's why I want a representative to talk to us. They haven't merely been biased, they've minimised and obscured the issue.

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onthephone100 · 10/01/2016 21:44

Of course the DM was accepting comments. It plays right into their knee jerk "coming over here and raping our women" rhetoric.

I don't even want to read the DM comments on this one, my god. I'd like to retain a little shred of hope for humanity.....

Which of course is all why the guardian and the BBC's utterly wet response simply plays into the hands of the far right. You may as well present them with the keys to the city. They'll be the ones with the hearts and minds after this, it's an absolute gift for them.

BabyGanoush · 10/01/2016 21:19

The Will Hutton piece is quite good, it has honesty.

BabyGanoush · 10/01/2016 21:14

Undeuxtrois, no it was this one:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/09/the-left-must-admit-the-truth-about-the-assaults-on-women-in-cologne

It started of ok, until you get to the paragraph saying: "men who have been raised to believe...etc"

Olivepip59 · 10/01/2016 21:09

Reporting has, in the English speaking press, been almost uniformly abysmal.

The Tekegraph did an excellent piece.

Hilariously, at one point the only media outlet accepting comments on the story was the Daily Mail.

The Guardian has been a disgrace.

UnDeuxTroisCatsSank · 10/01/2016 17:38

Is this the piece you mentioned, baby?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/10/after-cologne-attacks-british-politicians-show-share-merkel-values

I did not think it too bad, overall.

Room101isWhereIUsedToLive · 10/01/2016 17:26

I think this sounds like a great idea!

onthephone100 · 10/01/2016 17:25

I'd like to know why the threads don't seem to be in discussions of the day too.

No way will you ever get a representative of the press he to defend the indefensible.

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BeccaMumsnet · 10/01/2016 17:21

Hi all - we apologise for not having posted yet. We are here reading and discussing.

Thanks so much for posting Flowers

DadKeepsCalm1 · 10/01/2016 17:16

Why do ring wing papers who were hardly fast at reporting events.

The cover up orginated in Germany, however The Guardian and Bbc have definitely tried to keep it hush.
The bbc gave events 9 seconds of coverage. They failed to mention that attacks have been taking place for months not just in Germany but Sweden and Austria. They also failed to mention the mayors victim blaming statement of short skirts.

DoctorTwo · 10/01/2016 17:09

I find the Graun's non reporting very strange, especially seeing as the editor is a woman. I tend to discount BBC News nowadays, for years it's come across as the propaganda wing of whichever government is in charge.

It was Rory Suchet on RT that told me the German police have identified 32 suspects, 18 of whom are asylum seekers/immigrants.

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carlajean · 10/01/2016 16:51

is anyone from Mumsnet going to respond to this?

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hiddenhome2 · 10/01/2016 15:36

MNHQ are preventing these threads from being in Discussion of The Day.

This is too important to cover up!

When was the last time a subject ran into three threads? Never!

Disgusting 😡