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The site is ruined until you deal with trolls.

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AnchorDownDeepBreath · 06/12/2015 22:20

I started a thread about someone paying for my Christmas dinner a few months ago. I started it because I was feeling a bit freaked out and couldn't work out who it was.

I've been accused of being a troll for that thread 8 times now. And that's not including the "hinting-you're-a-troll" comments. I stopped updating it for that reason. Then people moan that you're not updating it. So I updated it earlier, after getting a few PMs about it, and then got accused of being a troll because it was, for some reason, mentioned on another thread. That has led to more troll accusations.

I won't start any more threads, unless they are on really boring things. It's genuinely a bit hurtful.

If trolls can't be better controlled, so that the troll-hunting stops and everyone stops just trying to be the first to call troll, we'll end up with no threads.

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Sparklingbrook · 07/12/2015 12:44

The majority of threads I have seen trollhunting on turn out to be troll threads unfortunately. The trollhunters are more often correct than not.

OddSocksHighHeels · 07/12/2015 12:42

sparkling I read socks in your first sentence and was all ready to defend myself then Grin

PurpleDaisies · 07/12/2015 12:41

Whenever i've reported people for troll hunting it has turned out that the op was a troll. It is pretty poor form though.

OddSocksHighHeels · 07/12/2015 12:41

Well that's one of the problems with troll hunting, once one person starts it then others join in and the thread just gets derailed. It does make a weird kind of sense for a troll to do that Confused

Sparklingbrook · 07/12/2015 12:40

I think there's a fair few sockies around too. I wouldn't be surprised if trolls don't work alone. If a few get together sockying is easy.

PausingFlatly · 07/12/2015 12:39

Now that is something I've thought for a while, HD.

Don't know whether they're the same people who start troll threads, but I think some really enjoy the "poking the ants and watch them run".

HoneyDragon · 07/12/2015 12:38

I know. It is a bit head explodey.

But tbh, if I wanted to wind everyone up on here it's what I'd do. Go on a contentious or emotional threadnand start shouting troll.

Thankfully imdontbneed to resort to such drastic measures to annoy you all...

My natural charming nature and wise words is enough Wink

OddSocksHighHeels · 07/12/2015 12:32

Trolls are troll hunting now? That's just hurting my brain.

HoneyDragon · 07/12/2015 12:30

And as lovely as MNHQ are and like reports I'm not reporting

This troll hunter is a troll.

Because id look like a dick head*

Grin

*well even more so than normal

HoneyDragon · 07/12/2015 12:28

Personal observation: I think the new way for trolls to get their shits and giggles on Mnet is to troll hunt.

I don't believe THAT many genuine users would name change, or be very new, would post "troll" on posts. I just don't.

Use advance search on some of them, it's interesting.

And clever. Report them or call them out for troll hunting and it causes more disharmony and disarray. Can't report them for trolling by troll hunting either.

wannaBe · 07/12/2015 12:20

the reality is that it is impossible to actually be certain who is trolling and who isn't, however, there is a distinct gap in time between reporting threads and mn hq actually responding to them. Perhaps if mn hq were quicker off the mark people wouldn't feel the need to raise suspicion on the threads, and perhaps if the more emotive topics e.g. relationships, bereavement and health were more closely monitored threads would be dealt with before the point where someone voiced their suspicions.

It would also be helpful if people weren't so desperate to be heroes and in so doing continued to feed what are clearly obvious trolls. I'm not talking about general support/advice, but the clear over-investment that is present e.g. on the relationships board with people "checking in" on posters to make sure they're ok and then voicing their concerns when said poster hasn't been back to the thread. All very fraught and unnecessary, and encourages the attention seeking trolls to go and post there because they know they have plenty of live bate to work with.

SarahMumsnet · 07/12/2015 11:53

Hi Anchor,

Thanks for this. We absolutely get how upsetting it must be to be accused of trolling when you're doing nothing of the sort - which is why we ask people to report rather than trollhunt on threads: the last thing we want is for folk to be put off from posting. I know we've said it before, but we do read and look into every report that's made, and will have a good dig around backstage if anything looks dodgy. Just to be scrupulously clear, we've NO reason to believe anything you've posted is any less than the truth, and we've deleted the troll-hunting posts from your original thread.

In terms of our response time, it's definitely the case that there'll be occasions (such as this weekend, as it happens) when the volume of reports means that we're not getting through them as expeditiously as we'd like. Firstly, we're sorry about this, and secondly, we do keep an overall eye on how quickly we're responding; the point at which it looks like there's been a general slowdown is the point at which we take a look at staffing levels.

Hope this makes sense. And, Anchor, can I take this opportunity to say that everyone in MNHQ is dying to know who paid for your dinner too ...

Thanks
Coconutty · 07/12/2015 09:36

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Waltermittythesequel · 07/12/2015 09:33

Who paid it?!

reni2 · 07/12/2015 09:32

Both trolls and troll hunting make it less likely people post about things that are weird. I bet most of us had a couple of experiences in our lives that would sound trollish if written down.

Sparklingbrook · 07/12/2015 09:22

I really can't agree that trollhunting is worse than trolling. I wish there were neither, and that reports were acted on more quickly before people got the chance to start trollhunting on the thread.

OddSocksHighHeels · 07/12/2015 01:10

Yes it's the troll hunters that are worse. And it is horrible when it happens to you because how can you prove yourself one way or the other?

And your thread never read like a troll thread to me at all. It would be a pretty pointless (and harmless) thing to troll about.

IamtheZombie · 06/12/2015 23:03

Zombie awaits the inevitable day when she is accused of being a troll.

BeverlyGoldberg · 06/12/2015 22:58

Anchor I loved your thread, never for one second thought you were disingenuous.

I just wanted to say that, aside from thinking it's the Landlord, you shouldn't be alone at Christmas and I think you should go for the meal.

Also I've been reading your username incorrectly, I thought it was 'AnchorDeepDownBreath', and was puzzled, it makes more sense now I've stopped being thick!

Pancakeflipper · 06/12/2015 22:57

You know you are not a troll Anchor.
Sadly I think more and more people are reading threads and subconsciously and consciously thinking "is it worth posting on that as its got troll signals?" And that must mean people whom could really assist or resolve genuine issues aren't posting.

I know there's always been trolls and maybe they are identified more now, making it feel like a more common problem. Or perhaps it is getting worse?

I had a thinly veiled comment about me being a troll and I think someone reported as MNHQ popped on the thread (with a comment about my 'issue' not about trolling). Thankfully I wasn't at a low ebb so it was "whatever" to me. But can understand why it upsets others.

magimedi · 06/12/2015 22:45

Mumsnet is now a big enough site with, I deduce, much advertising revenue, to employ people 24/7 to deal with reports, trolls etc.

There have been some appalling trolls over this w/e on miscarriage threads etc that have not been taken down in time.

It's no use relying on a few night watch volunteers (wonderful though they are).

This place needs 24/7 proper monitoring or it will go right down the tubes.

Anchor fwiw I never thought you were a troll.

reni2 · 06/12/2015 22:42

The thread that quoted yours has even more troll hunting on than yours. But it is really odd to troll hunt on a thread as old as yours is, if people were this suspicious, surely they would have reported it and HQ will have checked by now.

Yours is a fairly personal one, very unkind to throw about troll accusations.

ThruUlikeAshortcut · 06/12/2015 22:40

So Anchor did you find out who paid yet?

G1veMeStrength · 06/12/2015 22:39

Oh op I feel sorry for you. I remember your original tread and didn't know you'd been accused of being a troll, how rubbish.

Tbh there are posts where I think 'that's a bit far fetched' but they are entertaining and as I go on here to be entertained I don't really mind. The begging type ones are awful though.

DonkeyOaty · 06/12/2015 22:38

Amen to that, our Sparklers.

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