Can we have a proper 'woo' topic?

I don't mean you personally btw, it was a general comment x

"who has the right to say what and what isn't crap? "

People.

Those who have a bare minimum understanding of physics, chemistry, biology (i.e. the real world), to be specific.

Reality isn't subjective.

That's precisely what I mean Gamerchick, a good debate as discussion about a subject is fab and usually I do learn something but the sheer venom and sneering on woo threads is something else and it really is tiresome.
There seems to be real hatred aimed at anyone who believes in anything remotely supernatural on here.

Oh I love talking about neuroscience. Save me a seat in the new topic

But who has the right to say what and what isn't crap?

I don't believe in religion.. All of this worshiping some invisible deity makes no sense, so in my opinion it is crap.

However

I don't go on religious threads and subject believers to the venom that happens on anything remotely 'woo' though.. just seems that some things are fair game on here and it's tiresum.

I'd definitely be be up for that, it would be nice to discuss sincerely held beliefs and related topics without certain other posters coming on and rather rudely dismissing them..
I think that some people don't realise or care that 'woo' can actually be a part of someone's religious beliefs. Dismissing that is hugely patronising and really bloody annoying.
As fashionable as atheism is these days, there should still a place to at least talk about things like this without having several posts merely saying 'bollocks'.
If we have our own woo topic could we please ban anybody from bringing up that million pound prize as well? That would be nice

People are free to talk about alternative therapies or "woo" subjects. Sticking all woo in one spot won't stop people from commenting if they think posts are factually incorrect.

But I don't object to having a topic for it, just don't expect free reign to spout crap.

I think its a great idea :)

I love threads like that and if it's all in one place it saves me searching for them!

The idea would be to be able to say: "This is the Mind/Body/Spirit/Neuroscience topic, we are allowed to discuss such matters here, if you don't like it, please find another topic to ridicule us in." This is what happens with Feminism.

Indigo missed the point. I wasn't talking to you.

No, I haven't missed the point at all.

A couple of years ago, or possibly even less, mindfulness, positive thinking and meditation would have been dismissed as completely and utterly woo.

Now there is tons of evidence showing their health benefits and every damn doctor and shrink in the country is pushing all three like the world was going to end.

So it would be good to at least be allowed to open one's mouth on MN and say some words without being hounded off thread.

but you're just not allowed to chat about these things in there without a slew of non believers stamping all over it. It really is quite irritating.

So would the new topic be a safe haven from religious people who don't want their beliefs allied to woo? Or cynics/nay-sayers who don't agree with the whole lot?

Not really sure that you can ring-fence an area from discussion - isn't that missing the point of the internet and MN - that there is free speech? Would the issue really be how to make it more 'respectful', if that's what you feel the problem is?

Another vote for yes please...

"Things like this"?

Cognitive mindfulness, optimism, and meditation are real. Their benefits are proven. They are not woo.

You have missed Garlic's point.

But 'cognitive mindfulness' would cover several therapeutic modalities proven to help the symptoms of schizophrenia, DID, BPD and various other disorders of the mind ... or have I passively-aggressively missed the point?

Your other link was just as interesting, MrsRT. It said that optimists live longer, healthier lives. Is optimism woo, do you think?

Except that mindfulness and neuroscience isn't really woo. And certainly not in the sense that angels and psychic stuff that the OP is talking about are.

You are going to have a real problem trying to keep out people who are going to tell you you are talking total bollocks if you stick neuroscience in the topic title.

Because it would cover this kinda thing:

www.cmrpconference.com/

I was thinking of suggesting "Mind/Body/Spirit/Neuroscience" as a better topic title.

Can we have a Piss And Vomit topic, too?

It could be called 'Science' :)

Unanimous, then.

It certainly seems as though they would be,judging by the responses so far,and also the fact that it's a topic dedicated to all things woo.

Would actual facts and science be banned from this area?

I love this idea. A safe haven for woo believers to talk without such ghastly things as common sense,science and facts disrupting them.
Keeping all the anti science crap in one place would also do wonders for my blood pressure. And prolong the life of my Ipad because it's cme close to being hurled out of the window on several occasions now.

I'm in! Come on MNHQ, you know you want to!