MNHQ Racism policy

'I think i'll pull out of that one as nobody on it wants to hear what is being said.'

Excuse me, what? So because people disagree with you it means they 'don't want to hear'. No, they just think you're being ridiculous.

And thats all i'm going to say here because i dont want thi thread to be hijacked by whats happening on that one.

I think i'll pull out of that one as nobody on it wants to hear what is being said.

Ah. Wasn't hard to find.

For fucks sake. I am sick of this shit.

Ok so it was a joke, but it was entirely unnecessary.

I won't be posting on that thread though, I have only read to page 3 and I am already fuming.

What's the other thread called?

A 'work in progress - we've done this so far' message would be gud.

Yes we must all just purchase grips because we are imagining it all. Some of the comments on that other thread are so dismissive.

I completely agree, looks like we know were we stand - at the bottom of the "to do" list

I get there are broader issues that can be looked at here, but I'd like a speedy decision on whether "race" is going to continue to simply equal "BME" as claimed on the last thread by HQ, or whether that has now changed.
I don't like the whole special case feeling of this.

knew

I knee i hadnt imagined that function

Had a look there and there's the option to keep them on for upto 30 days. I put it up to 5.

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Oh right- i think you can change the number of days it stays for. Mine is default i think and that is longer than 3 days.

My TIO goes in order of most recent new response, but threads drop off three days after my last post on the thread. I think.

I hope this won't fall off my TIO before the response comes.

I agree. Thats a week now and still we are getting 'HQ need to talk about it"

Off topic wannna you can set your TIO so that the most recently responded to thread is at the top of your list so upu will see this thread when (if?) there is a response from hq.

This dropped off my tio and I have only just remembered. I came on here expecting there to be a response.

Its pretty ridiculous now.

Is there any suggestion from HQ when "soon" will be? It seems to be taking a disproportionately long time to formulate a substantive response. .

Bump, anyone?

Just wizzing through TG 'dignity' doesn't appear and yet it would be quite a tactical and versatile tool. It's used in employment practice to reinforce the expectations of the Act, and so it's quiet feasible for HQ to include it in TG and use it to good effect imho.

awful weightist thread
Def a consideration for TG review re 'dignity'.

The fact it angered many posters isn't the litmus test.

Ofcourse not, but there are threads left to stand all the time on here that are far more heated than that one, and the thing that first made it be considered for deletion was that it was a bunfight. Was it though? Really?

People post nasty shit on benefit threads all the time, and they are counteracted and the thread runs and runs.

So why was that one different? It had nothing to do with the op, HQ had to be convinced that the op wasn't just a bit daft. They wrote "deliberately inflammatory" because all the posters on the thread were telling them it was. Let's not forget, it took pages of tooing and froing before that conclusion was reached by the second mod!!

This may be unpopular to say, but looking at TG I could see why a 2nd opinion was looked for. The TG specifies "deliberately inflammatory behaviour." Whoever looked at the OP could reasonably ask 'does this qualify?' The fact it angered many posters isn't the litmus test.
The OP could be interpreted as ill-informed, fairly ignorant and possibly represent a base-reactive view of many people. But 'deliberately inflammatory' isn't the conclusive thing at all. The fact though that the OP didn't come back to explain themselves is a bit of an indictment though, and the eventual decision was correct, imo.
Another way of looking at it could have been to let it ride so that other posters will witness the argument being laid out, though that's risky and problematic too.
I look to the deletions being made on this thread, the apology expressed, and the open-hearted undertaking that HQ wish to get this right and are apparently absorbing the criticisms on here as Good Things.