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HemmingGate: To ban or not to ban, that is the question MNHQ

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CarpeVinum · 30/12/2013 17:46

Some of us would like to know if a certain politico will be banned, proper.

No rush.

We know you have a lot on your plate with ... stuff.

(I probably got two quotes mixed up in subject line. Don't panic! It's me not you. Am philistine. Italy is wasted on me. Not keen on art, prefer shopping.)

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CarpeVinum · 02/01/2014 07:36

barstard brim ost won't let me add links, done my best... leaving now, no really, I am actually going.

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CarpeVinum · 02/01/2014 07:24

I'm really going now.

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CarpeVinum · 02/01/2014 07:24

here snthis fallacy being spresd that not sober was only during light hearted it ofnthread, but he was in and put of the pub the whole bleeding threay.

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CarpeVinum · 02/01/2014 07:23

Go comment on the birm local peice asap if one has time ! fill in missing details !!

Have to to go ARRRGGGG!

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CarpeVinum · 02/01/2014 07:18

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birmingham-mp-john-hemming-banned-6458760

haven't read, rshing out door, was on google alert (after ai eleminated Hamas)

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confuddledDOTcom · 02/01/2014 02:58

As someone who has been against JH etc from the start of this, I want to just say that sometimes there are "personality clashes" that cause things to be made up, spun etc against the parents. I do know of a case and know people who know other cases, where it's happened, but they're not generally the cases that end up in the press!

Sadly if JH and friends wanted to take up cases there are real cases out there that could do with help, they take up the wrong ones and leave people with either the wrong view of SS or looking like idiots themselves.

WestmorlandPigInBlanket · 01/01/2014 23:56

back on the original original topic

www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/legal/brendan-fleming-solicitor-represents-mother-6361244

YoniMatopoeia · 01/01/2014 23:40

Marking place.

V busy with new dog (Have other thread about new dog)

Spero · 01/01/2014 23:25

Here are some of Woody Guthrie's NY resolutions in 1942

Love everybody
Make up your mind
Wake up and fight

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CarpeVinum · 01/01/2014 23:02

I'm sure there is a meme in that Madame

ohhh Jack of Kent has reved up his twitter !

No! Iam going to bed! facing down an MP in sleep deprivation is one thing, pre schoolers another matter entirely.

Twitter will still be there when I get back from being covered in cake crumbs and having been told "No! Shan't" a million times during PutYourSocksOnGate 3746362.0

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MadameDefarge · 01/01/2014 22:56

I saw a great quote on a thread yesterday,

'Careful, your agenda is showing'

I really want to use it!

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CarpeVinum · 01/01/2014 22:53

Pacific

Grin
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CarpeVinum · 01/01/2014 22:52

Spero

Such apathy abounds

Don't try it Italian style. You'll explode. Grin

It's been one of the harder things to get used to here. And the main reason why I am the unlikeliest home educator(ish) on the planet.

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PacificDogwood · 01/01/2014 22:51

Oh, you shouldn't have, Carpe Grin

No, really, you should NOT have

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CarpeVinum · 01/01/2014 22:48

I'll take it CatherineMNHQ

And a happy new year to all of you too.

Wine

....and there'll be a nutria TAIL stole winging it's way to you all as a joint MNHQ chrissy pressie ..... just as soon as the lame Italian postal donkey comes off his nine month long NY holdiay Grin

I know you were all wishing you had that bit of high Italian Fashion to call your own.

PS, if it doesn't fit, just pass it on to Pacific she'd love it!

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Spero · 01/01/2014 22:46

Happy New Year to everyone.

Here's to shining a light.

PacificDogwood · 01/01/2014 22:44

I think TSShasjustCOP Shock[v pleased]

PacificDogwood · 01/01/2014 22:43

Catherine, oh, thank you, happy new year to you too Smile

Spero, no I don't get that attitude either, but then I think that we don't rant enough about some things and that we owe it to each other to look out for those weaker/less advantaged/more vulnerable than ourselves. And no, I am not some kind of knight, I don't have a mission complex, but I just cannot keep my big gob shut about some things Grin

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CarpeVinum · 01/01/2014 22:43

Drank

Oh easyjet I think. Can't face schlepping all the way to Bergamo, which RyanAir has got a bit confused with Milan. Grin

Spero I am working on the basis that if nothing else I'm teaching my kid that giving up before you start is no stance to take. I was honest with him from the on set that it might not end in the result we want, when we want, but it is worth trying anyway. Just cos... it's right.

Everybody else... well, we'll just have to prove them wrong won't we Grin

Any yes, I did read it at first that the jouno was saying "he was pissed when I phoned him", but might be an over enthusiastic interpretstion on my part.

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CatherineMumsnet · 01/01/2014 22:41

Hi OP, now you know that the secret service never comments on its missions - ok, I may have got that a bit wrong but OliviaMumsnet used to say something along those lines!

We can't comment on other posters but we can wish you all a very happy new year. How's that?

Spero · 01/01/2014 22:38

I just don't understand this attitude 'o nothing will change, so do nothing then'.

Such apathy abounds.

PacificDogwood · 01/01/2014 22:33

Carpe, I'd've thought you'd be knows as Aunty Steel or summat.

Have fun! And share your Cornettos with them - you'll be fine Grin

PacificDogwood · 01/01/2014 22:28

Spero and Carpe, I mentioned (in passing) to one of my colleagues wheat I had been up to on the WorldWideWeb and she was Hmm which I found quite disappointing and dispiriting too.

?Because JH is a councillor in B'ham ie too far away to 'matter' here
?Because 'who would ever believe anything said online'
?Because 'how do you know who you are dealing with' - fair point that, acturally, you could all be a whole haulage company employing hairy-knuckled drivers called Dave Grin

I get really angry at this abuse of power (by JH, not my otherwise lovely colleague) - we have occasional dealings with Child Protection issues; we have the conversations in the coffee room about what to do in certain situations; we know a lot of people struggle emotionally, with their MH, with lack of coping strategies under stress and of bloody course there needs to be a robust system to take care of families who get reported - we are all agreed on this.
Scaremongering is NOT the way forward - and being the MN junky that I am and know that a lot of people are reading and believing what they read, particularly when it comes from a person of perceived greater insight.
Grrrrr!

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CarpeVinum · 01/01/2014 22:26

Exactly, Lost there was something about it in the context of the bit above...but I wondered if I was reading too much into it becuase I wanted to. The first time I read it I thought the jouno was implying "and he was pissed when ai called him as well", having read it a mere eleventy squillion times for "clues". , I'm no longer sure that is what he is saying.

Right, it has been well tough doing this when the world and its mother has been more interested in Xmas and NY.

Let's see what happens in the press and other ... "entities", now the hols are over, everybody is back to work and the details aren't still buried in the unknown zone.

Plus now the guardian and the legal blogger "went first" as it were, and Hemming made admissions on his blog, maybe bloggers and other news outlets will be less coy and try and get their own angle on it?

My mate had her child care fall through the day before her one day honeymoon, so I'll be knee deep in teeny tinies in the morning, which means bed soon I think or I'll be no match for pre schoolers who know me as The Soft Touch.

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Spero · 01/01/2014 22:21

I was in Cardiff having the best NYE ever as we just ate chocolate and watched Hot Fuzz which I had managed never to see and was ace. I would love to shake hands next time I am in Wales! I sometimes get sent to Newport County Court as part of my work in the great baby snatching conspiracy. Welsh babies are highly prized due to their Celtic charm.

Carpe, I know our friends are only looking out for us but I find it a bit dispiriting. They asked me what I was hoping to achieve and I said I was hoping to reach out to people like them and just make them think a bit more. They said they wouldn't engage as they don't feel their lives are ever touched by child protection issues. And then it all got a bit heated as I said they should be interested, this is an issue for us all etc. So then I had to apologise for ranting.

I don't know about that bit it bold - do they mean he was pissed when they telephoned him?

Lets make sure we have lots of liquid refreshment on hand for the Great Debate!