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Did you ban John Hemming (the MP) for outing me ?

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CarpeVinum · 21/12/2013 23:47

Cos he isn't on The Thread.

And I'd like to know why.

I am immaginging that the party whip we've been phoning, emailing and twittering has tied him up and run off with his keyboard.

Can I hang on to that fantasy, or did you ban him ?

It's not the end of the world to me that he posted my twitter account, knowing it was me and knowing it was my real name. But I will quickly drum up some minding if required to purge MN of his presence.

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MadameDefarge · 29/12/2013 19:01

well done Tired!

CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 19:01

I'd be crap down a mine.

Can't even cope with minor emailling session.

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CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 19:00

Tierd Thanks

Foot in door!

(((((You star)))))

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MadameDefarge · 29/12/2013 18:59

good work carpe,

in fact, bloody excellent work.

CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 18:58

I will start the Ks .... soon.

I need a break.

Blimey, harder work than I realised.

My fingers hurt.

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Tiredemma · 29/12/2013 18:58

Ok- will forward info to her now (she had an xmas card from his 'office' and was outraged- she does not think highly of him)

CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 18:55

Tired

Yes!

This

John Hemming - Banned from Mumsnet after post pub posting.

(from homeschoolinitaly.blogspot.it)
(distributed via Twitter)

When the Italian C-sec/adoption case hit the news it was debated on Mumsnet.

One of the posters debating the case was the MP John Hemming MP posting under his own name, an account verified by Mumsnet HQ.

Things got..... interesting.

Mr. Hemming appeared unhappy that other posters were not prepared to take his word for it when it came to his sweeping statements. They kept being terribly awkward by asking for things like evidence and proof to back his statements up. In what may have been a fit of pique he offered to email a poster proof.

She received a page from a legal document.
The case was still ongoing.
Names were not redacted.

Mumsnetters did this...

Among the posters trying to introduce Mr John Hemming to the basics of what debate actually is, were a number of Italian speakers who challenged his assertions as per the Italian court being in agreement with him. In what may have been an attempt to "get one over" on the declared Italian speakers Mr Hemming declared his own command of Italian to be adequate enough to read and discuss an extract from a legal document pertaining to the mother in the original news story.

He posted the extract on Mumsnet.

The extract was from a document that was never intended by the court to be made public. When he posted the extract he posted the names of Alexandra Pacchieri's baby in England,whose name was protected by a court order, and both of her sisters in Italy. Other identifying information about the three children was also included.

Mumsnet HQ deleted the post as soon as they heard about the contents.

Mr Hemming went "Oppsie! It's OK, doesn't count cos I didn't mean to and anyway my Italian skills have retrospectively evaporated"

If his declaration of "Opps!" is to be taken at face value, he had evidently not made any attempt to have the extract checked for origin, status and content prior to posting it for public viewing on Mumsnet.

Mumsnetters went ....

And took action.

Essex Local Authority, Tim Farron [Senior Liberal Democrat] and the court of Judge Munby (the officiating judge in UK) were informed of what had occurred. Additionally, the Guardian newspaper was made aware of the breach of confidentiality by a serving MP

Mr Hemming kept on posting. His posts aroused suspicions that he was Mumsnetting under the influence. When asked directly if he was drunk he replied, "I am not sober, but I am right". (and lo did the number of screen shots go forth and multiply)

Mumsnetters did not... ...when they saw that, because it was ever so slightly obvious.

Mumsnetters were increasingly dismayed by poor political standards of conduct running riot over their thread by this point.

Mr John Hemming then posted the twitter handles of Mumsnetters on the thread. Effectively outing a number of them given that some of the twitter handles were clearly in the posters' real names.

Mr Hemming's post containing Mumsnetters' real names was swiftly deleted by MNHQ. And he went quiet.

Due to John Hemming's sudden disappearance Mumsnet HQ was asked if he had been banned.

They confirmed that Mr Hemming has the dubious honour of being the first MP to ever have had his account banned for a week while they decide what the best course of action is.

We are astounded that a serving MP is disregarding the law in such a blatant fashion, and is attempting to intimidate other posters by revealing their real life identities. Contrary to Mr Hemming's repeated assertions, there are often very good reasons for not releasing the names and the details of those involved in a family court case. In many cases, this secrecy is maintained to protect the innocent - the children. For a member of our parliament to reveal details of these cases, that he has only become party to due to his work as an MP, is extremely worrying.

For background of the original news story as it was first reported, and how it morphed as actual facts came to light please see:www.headoflegal.com/2013/12/04/booker-hemming-and-the-forced-caesarian-case-a-masterclass-in-flat-earth-news/

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Tiredemma · 29/12/2013 18:54

A very good friend of mine is local MP (solihull)

anything I can forward to her?

(must admit im a bit slow on the uptake)

MadameDefarge · 29/12/2013 18:49

I did a link to local media on twitter.

Sorry I am not on twitter. but am happy to do grunt work in the background.

WestmorlandPigInBlanket · 29/12/2013 18:47

Has anyone contacted the local Birmingham news?

MadameDefarge · 29/12/2013 18:47

phew!

PR is not all glam, its 90% getting the message out to folk!

I think that the Brum mafia will enjoy be very concerned at JHs continued antics. And will discuss with glee very soberly this latest blot on his copybook.

CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 18:37

Not pointless Madame your activity shamed me into stopping procrastinating and getting on with it.

Have done all Hs

Am very bored now.

Internet very slow.

Birminham council website...not exciting.

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MadameDefarge · 29/12/2013 18:22

well done carpe for finding that website...

CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 18:16
Grin

Yum!

Just about to hit the Gs

I am fair buzzing from the .... tedium.

I am enjoying writing snappy subject lines though.

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PacificDingbat · 29/12/2013 18:12

I've only just done the Ss Blush

Too many children under my feet Hmm - now feeding time at the zoo. Wish me luck.
We're having fried Nutria Tails Grin

CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 17:44

I've finsihed the Cs

Most seem to be on holdiay til the 4th of Jan judgeing by the automated replies, but maybe they read on their phone or something.

Birmingham has an awful lot of councillors.

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WestmorlandPigInBlanket · 29/12/2013 17:37

unfortunately most of the interesting bits have been deleted.

WestmorlandPigInBlanket · 29/12/2013 17:36

i'm trawling all four/ five threads doing a chronology of events to email out to people I feel it needs to be raised with. Will post a link once its done.

CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 17:34

I am up to Reg Cornish. Slowest website in history of internetkind.

Red Thanks I'll get right on to it, anything to take a break from mass emails for five mintues. Grin

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RedKites · 29/12/2013 17:23

Have been lurking supportively but haven't had anything to say til now. Maybe try tweeting the guy who does the Bloggerheads site - he's interested in both politics and social media so might be his kind of thing?

PacificDingbat · 29/12/2013 17:13

Yep, that sounds like a plan Smile

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CarpeVinum · 29/12/2013 16:55

Pacific I am doingnthis list,up to Vivvienne B....something You want to start at the bottom ? Meet me in the middle ?

www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Satellite?c=Page&childpagename=Member-Services%2FPageLayout&cid=1223092734466&pagename=BCC%2FCommon%2FWrapper%2FInlineWrapper

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PacificDingbat · 29/12/2013 16:52

I am slightly overwhelmed by MmeDefarge's on-line acumen Shock.

Sorry, I wandered off (had to force offspring x4 to local park in an attempt to prevent them from murdering each other or me them ).

I think I'll start that list from the bottom and work my way up? Surely, it does not hurt if there is some overlap?