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Trolling of the Bereavement board

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NorthernLebkuchen · 17/12/2013 17:13

Yet again I have reported a thread which has turned out to be dodgy and deleted. I've lost count of how many that is over the time I've been on mumsnet. Trouble is that on that board, above all others, people want to be kind. People struggling withtheir loss reach out hands to others. It's fantastic support but truly awful when it's some git of a troll getting a very sick kick indeed. So can something be done? Maybe a time delay so no new thread will appear there till checked by MNHQ? Maybe no recent namechanges or new registrations posting unless cleared by MHHQ?

i know none of this is easy to arrange but I really feel something needs to be done. It's just awful.

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perplexedpirate · 17/12/2013 21:22

That was a troll thread?!
Fuck. That is so sick. Sad

everlong · 17/12/2013 21:15

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ImAnElfJeSuisUneElf · 17/12/2013 21:13

All the people saying how they 'spotted' the troll, I know you mean well, but you're only giving tips on what to avoid so they can draw even more people in next time. Sad

SweetSeraphim · 17/12/2013 21:12

I have been thinking about that thread all day. Who are these utter cunts that get a kick out of making this stuff up? Angry

LadyBeagleEyes · 17/12/2013 21:02

I saw that thread too, and didn't believe it.
The baby died after falling of the sofa and yet the 'new' poster started a thread about it the same day.
I didn't report, I knew I was right but I couldn't 'just in case'.
I think with those sort of posts, even if people don't believe it, they just feel very uncomfortable about reporting and so they're left to stay.
It's a difficult one, I'm a cynical cow and usually spot trolls, but on a bereavement thread I don't report.

YouAreMyRain · 17/12/2013 20:16

I thought it was a bit fishy, posting so soon and the OP sounded so "together" and then waited a while before responding. I did have my suspicions.
However I was also quite traumatised at the slight possibility of it being true because having recently had a very prem baby in NICU/SCBU who had a serious health emergency soon after discharge I am struggling with severe anxiety about my baby's health.

How can people be so cruel? Other bereaved parents shared their experiences. Bastard trolls.Angry

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage · 17/12/2013 18:58

I saw that thread and tbh I did wonder if it was genuine and then felt awful for thinking such a thing.

Any delays in a thread being posted could be very upsetting for someone genuinely in need but then if they are grief stricken things perhaps can't be made worse.

shabbs · 17/12/2013 18:53

We have all had our 'bums bitten' by people pretending about the death of a baby/child on the bereaved Mums thread. Its revolting and disgraceful. I used to feel sad for anybody who had to get attention in that way, used to worry about their mental state etc etc.

Now, when I read threads, like the one today I quickly realise that something is not right....which is also a sad thing but comes with experience of being fooled in the past.

There is no death so sad as that of a child (no matter what age they are) Today, when I read the thread, I quickly realised what was going on. When you have experience of losing a child you want to help others going through the same thing. You feel the urgency to talk to them and also to tell 'your' story.

BlueStones · 17/12/2013 18:46

Bloody hell. I was thinking about that family at work today, hoping the nine year old wouldn't blame herself for the rest of her life. Very relieved that it never happened, but what a despicable individual to post something like that.

NorthernLebkuchen · 17/12/2013 18:46

When I saw today's deleted thread there were a lot of replies. I think around 200? So yes it was deleted but not before it had been read by, and presumably had an impact on, quite a number of people.

I think that it's also worth thinking about what support mumsnet and mumsnetters can be expected to offer. For people who already post as part of the community yes, the support in bereavement is important and useful. For people posting for the first time though - how much 'support' can the sympathy of utter strangers really give? Would that support be impaired by a short waiting period? I really don't think it would. I can see there are all sorts of admin issues with that though. Just so fed up of reporting whilst people continue to be suckered in.

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Trooperslane · 17/12/2013 18:41

I didn't report but did think if my baby had just died, MN would be the last place I'd be.

Maybe someone would need MN support a bit down the line, but straight away?

Agree that people who do this have a serious mental illness. (Or are total bastards. And I don't use either insult lightly)

BitOfFunWithSanta · 17/12/2013 18:36

There simply isn't an administrative solution to this. It requires engaging your brain before responding (don't be a sucker), and being prepared to use the mechanisms which are already in place, ie the Report function. MNHQ will never think badly of you for flagging something that sounds suspicious, and they don't need you to feel apologetic about helping them keep the boards kosher.

Nobody, least of all the OP, need know you've reported. Obviously, don't call troll on the thread.

And yes, don't give more of yourself than you can spare.

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 17/12/2013 18:22

What abut the bereaved parent who needs support now and has joined MN to get it? Why should they suffer a delay in getting that support?

PositiveAttitude · 17/12/2013 18:22

I read the thread and had a gut feeling it was a troll, but I didnt want to report it because I thought it would be awful if I was wrong. Thank you to those who did report and got it looked into and stopped quickly.

Those type of trolls are the lowest of the low and just do not understand, or care, how hurtful it is to those of us who have lived through the nightmare of a baby dying.

scaevola · 17/12/2013 18:13

Those measures might not protect as much as you think (remembering the one who began with an "S").

OLittleTownOfBarflehem · 17/12/2013 18:03

God, what utter wankers there are. Some people just shouldn't be allowed a keyboard!

BettyBotter · 17/12/2013 17:58

Thank god MN got to it quickly. But also thank god it wasn't real. Sad Angry

everythinghippie29 · 17/12/2013 17:57

Jeez, somebody made that up! I read it and felt awfully sorry for everyone, including the '9 year old daughter' blaming herself!

I'm 9 months pregnant and was horrified at the prospect of any harm coming to my little boy.

I honestly cannot comprehend why anyone would ever make something like that. I've seen some crazy trolling in the past but on a board designed to help those suffering the pain of grief and loss is beyond sick! Sad

GodRestTEEMerryGenTEEmen · 17/12/2013 17:55

Maybe that's the answer, some sort of heads up thing for reports from that topic.

Coconutty · 17/12/2013 17:54

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BoreOfWhabylon · 17/12/2013 17:52

The thing is, if a thread is reported MNHQ can often tell pretty quickly if it is a troll. So, wouldn't even need a delay, just MNHQ routinely checking new OPs on bereavement section only.

Of course some will still slip through but many will be caught, as the latest one was.

BitOfFunWithSanta · 17/12/2013 17:49

It is very uleasant, but a common feature of the Internet, sadly, not just MN. I think that all you can do is use your common sense, and report stuff that seems dodgy. If you see a poster whom you know has been through similar being sucked in, give them a discreet heads up via PM and just remind them that they need to take care of themselves online.

everlong · 17/12/2013 17:43

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strongandsturdy · 17/12/2013 17:38

Had a very strong feeling that thread was bogus as I read through it

Just the general tone. and It's incredibly rare a baby would harm themselves seriously from falling off a sofa - I've done it, as I think have most people.

What a horrible person

NorthernLebkuchen · 17/12/2013 17:37

Sirzy - if regular posters knew there is a delay there then surely that wouldn't be so bad would it? Or do you reckon the trolls would just spread elsewhere and post in exactly the same way but in Chat etc?

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