Clarification please

Mind you. I could still be on sherry....

Well. You could start the thread in Ethical, or WWYD?

And word it along the lines of

As a parent and a human do you feel uncomfortable with the Santa lie.

It's all getting weird. This is foremost a parenting site, and it is a parenting question that gets discussed in some form or another annually.

The pompous dad remains which in my opinion means there are more nefarious reasons for deleting this one that hQ are refusing to share.

You know it's not TRUE that all the audience shouting 'we care' during the Care Bears film saved the life of the Care Bears.

I AM SORRY TO BREAK THAT TO YOU ALL, CREDULOUS FUCKERS!

You know what? I don't give a fuck any more.

this is madness.

I saw the original thread title, but didn't get around to reading it. I sit on the fence with that one, tbh. I have dd1, who doens't know enough to get the fact that Santa isn't a story (she's read books about him, therefor ehe must be a story, iyswim), and dd2 who has been asking since she was about 2 (sometimes with a worried look on her face) 'yes, but is he REALLY real?', and I have been left in the middle not kn owing what the fuck to say.

I read half the second thread, which wasn't really a thread-about-a-thread in that it wasn't bitching about whatever/whoever got the thread deleted in the first place, and wasn't goading, or carrying over any kind of nastiness of hounding or anything. And then I missed the rest - I've just logged on to read the rest now I'm home again, and saw this one.

Which will be going pfffft shortly (WHY?!).

Good lord, how times have changed. No actual resoned discussion allowed anymore, unless it is about how orange the Orange One is, or what Katie Price will name her next child, or how Johnnie's clothes are really crap this season (followed by hundereds of threads about what has been bought from Johnnie), Madness.

thank FUCK bick was typo for big. I wondered what the hell you were offering there!

This is Insania. I don't agree with Hully's PoV on the old Santa debate, but I love a debate, heated or otherwise, what with me being a grown up and all that. MN is weird at the mo. So many irritations.

::applaudes Buffy::

You know, I never say this...but MN has actually changed.

It's just not possible to have fun any more.

Too many PO. Too many new moderators, sorry Community Managers, with delusions of grandeur.

What the fuck was the point of that chat a few weeks ago with Justine et al?

It's people who can't separate the point from the personal who are the problem

I totally agree with this.

I love a good debate. A heated debate. I'll happily go toe to toe with someone on an issue, get really worked up about then laugh about it with them. It's easy to debate an issue passionately and not end up calling people names!

There seems to be a very thin line between 'debate' and 'goady'... I was planning to read Hully's thread after work, I don't have any DC yet, but when I do I don't intend on doing the Santa thing and wanted to see what the arguments for/against were... but the thread is gone, and I shall be forever in the dark... (or should it just be ?)

I disagreed with Hully. Well tbh I didn't know what the fuck she was on about.

But it's madness that the thread was deleted.

Was the thread deleted because some posters were saying Hully was a big goady troll?

Oh and another thing, just because Beth makes it through Little Women, don't think she's going to be ok. She kicks the bucket later, maybe in Good Wives

(waiting for mnhq to slap an injunction on me)

seriously? We can't discuss this topic and any attempt to do so will be deleted?

I disagreed completely with hully's pov and said so but this is bloody ridiculous.

We are all supposed to be grown ups, ffs. We can't discuss an issue without name calling and being mardy?

I am now snorting inelegantly and smacking the floor with my hand in uncontrollable fits of hilarity

Do those people know that Bambi dies, in the book? (wait for thread to be deleted)

Can I just check I have this right - I didn't see the first thread. Is this what happened:

Hully started a thread saying "I don't think we should lie to children about anything, including Father Christmas, why do we tell them that a big red fatty in the sky brings their presents?"

and some people cried and said "but we love Santa!"

and - and (this is the bit where I well up with uncontrollable laughter) and - the thread was deleted because some people were sad that people were dissing Santa?

I am now falling on the floor dying with hysterics