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Clarification please

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Hullygully · 05/12/2013 16:25

So I come back to find that you have deleted my thread asking why my Santa thread was deleted.

Of course it was a thread about a thread, it was asking a question about the thread.

Wtf else is one supposed to do?

I put it in site stuff.

It was also a really nice friendly thread full of poetry and laughs. Why why why why was it deleted? What the hell is going on there?

Secondly, if one wants to talk about something, and that something has been deleted purely owing to others mischief, does that mean that one is never to talk about that subject again??

How mad is that?

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AnAdventureInCakeAndWine · 05/12/2013 20:34

"If a thread - even one with a clear question in the title, goes on to talk about the same issues as in the first removed thread - then it is considered a thread about a thread."

So if another thread ever goes on to talk about the issue of "what to say to children about Santa" then it will be considered a thread about a thread? Mumsnet's been going for a good while now; you must have had deleted threads on every subject under the sun, so you'd better get started on deleting all the current threads as I bet most of them are talking about the same issues as have come up in deleted threads.

There's a difference between "repeating and rehashing" and "talking about the same issues". Surely, surely you can see that?

usualsuspect · 05/12/2013 20:34

You might all go off to form Goldies and leave me here.

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Hullygully · 05/12/2013 20:32

Am I paranoid?

I fear not

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Maryz · 05/12/2013 20:31

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Hullygully · 05/12/2013 20:31

And UNFAIR and ILLOGICAL

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bruxeur · 05/12/2013 20:30

But you've just said that the TAAT rule isn't absolute. You can't even maintain a consistent position from one of you on one thread. And you can't understand that is both ridiculous and frustrating?

usualsuspect · 05/12/2013 20:30

I'm a bit scared now.

AnAdventureInCakeAndWine · 05/12/2013 20:30

The guidelines don't say "you can't have a thread about a thread".

They say "If a thread is deleted, please resist the temptation to start a new one repeating and rehashing everything that has been deleted."

So you can't delete a thread that doesn't repeat or rehash stuff from a deleted thread and then just shrug and point at the guidelines.

Original poster
Hullygully · 05/12/2013 20:30

Also, is no one ever allowed to talk about the existence of santa or not again?

Because that will be a thread about a thread, won't it?

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Maryz · 05/12/2013 20:29

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Hullygully · 05/12/2013 20:29

It didn't talk about them. People mentioned them once or twice, but mostly it was other stuff.

That is ridiculous. And NOT something I've seen before.

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RebeccaMumsnet · 05/12/2013 20:27

@Hullygully

I wasn't responded to at all. I got a standard email that was erroneous and then nothing.

No it doesn't clarify anything, you've said exactly the same thing.

And I still want to know this:

And could you explain why a thread on SITE STUFF asking why a thread was deleted = "a thread about a thread?"

And EXACTLY HOW ELSE IS ONE SUPPOSED TO ASK THAT QUESTION?

Hully, If a thread - even one with a clear question in the title, goes on to talk about the same issues as in the first removed thread - then it is considered a thread about a thread.

Our error was not posting a response to your question on that second thread before it was removed - we should have been more transparent and for that I can only apologise.

bruxeur · 05/12/2013 20:27

Not really, Exit - any apology with the conditional "if" in it can do one, frankly.

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Hullygully · 05/12/2013 20:26

Rebecca.

I still want to know this:

And could you explain why a thread on SITE STUFF asking why a thread was deleted = "a thread about a thread?"

And EXACTLY HOW ELSE IS ONE SUPPOSED TO ASK THAT QUESTION?

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RebeccaMumsnet · 05/12/2013 20:25

@Maryz

I've been on two long threads over te past couple of days which have been real bunfights.

There are posters telling out and out lies. Scary lies that could seriously damage vulnerable people. Lies that they have repeated even after it has been proven by links to court judgements that they are lies.

Those threads are still there.

The posters are continuing to lie - and link to blogs that are complete fabrications.

Maybe mnhq should re-prioritise.

This is about Father Christmas ffs, it's hardly a matter of life and death. Let us talk about it if we want to.

Have you reported them Maryz?

ExitPursuedByAChristmasGrinch · 05/12/2013 20:25

Harsh bruxeur!

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Hullygully · 05/12/2013 20:25

I really understand that you all have to stick together and present a united front etc, and that's fine, but it does mean that this is all a bit shit.

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Maryz · 05/12/2013 20:24

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Hullygully · 05/12/2013 20:24

I wasn't responded to at all. I got a standard email that was erroneous and then nothing.

No it doesn't clarify anything, you've said exactly the same thing.

And I still want to know this:

And could you explain why a thread on SITE STUFF asking why a thread was deleted = "a thread about a thread?"

And EXACTLY HOW ELSE IS ONE SUPPOSED TO ASK THAT QUESTION?

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bruxeur · 05/12/2013 20:23

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ExitPursuedByAChristmasGrinch · 05/12/2013 20:23

Ooh don't ask Honey. It's hideous Xmas Sad

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RebeccaMumsnet · 05/12/2013 20:21

Well apologies if there was an error on our part.

I do believe that the first thread was removed with good reason. The second also but you should have been responded to faster - for that we can only apologise.

The second thread did appear to follow a similar course to the first and it did break our guidelines by doing that. Apologies if we seem a little heavy handed and you didn't feel that we responded to your questions at the time.

Hopefully we have helped to clarify a little.

HoneyDragon · 05/12/2013 20:21

Exit

What happened to your dog?!

ExitPursuedByAChristmasGrinch · 05/12/2013 20:20

Things ain't what they used to be.

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