Is it time to start paying for MN membership?

Or everyone could start their MN life with a number of eggs shown by their username - denoting Good Egg - and every time they were abusive towards other posters, they could lose eggs.

Surely all it needs to say on your profile is:

Not a Troll and Not a Goady Fucker either

Then if you are abusive towards other posters, MNHQ could delete it.

That's what I meant, worraliberty has just put it more succinctly. The flip side of having the date you joined is that longer standing members opinions may be given more credence than say me who's not a troll but only joined in feb.

An alternative could be to make it mandatory to have some basic info made public on your profile.

ah but the word motivation is the key here

for instance - at this moment in time - you do not know my motivation am i debating the fact that goading is subjective
or tdoi have nothing else to do, am i sat here naked and waiting for things to kick off becuase i am bored of licking chocolate of the pet hamsters balls?

• ubik Sat 26-Oct-13 17:20:39

1. mumsnet is not a lifeline, it is a chat forum*

You are so wrong - so so wrong! When I had PND i didn't know i was ill - it was the advice that i got on here that made me see my doctor and then helped me come to terms witih taking ADs and helped me through the initial stages before i could access counselling. If i had to pay to come on this site now, i would, if however as a newbie, there was a cost involved I probably wouldnt have bothered and i actually dread to think what would have happened. Yeah, i might have found my way to the doctors anyway but maybe it might have got a lot more serious than it did do before the lovely mums on here made me realise i was in trouble.

I continue to get support here, along wth the laughs, entertainment and the occasional bit of cooking advice and pointers on what to read on my kindle.

I actually don't mind the advertising, which is what pays for the site, i had a banner come up on my page all the time that i didnt think was appropriate to the site, flagged this up to MNHQ and by the end of that day i didn't see tht particular advertiser again.

MNHQ - you're not perfect (we don't want you to be!) but please don't change! I love that i cant say cunt and not be deleted but i also love that there is enough background moderation to prevent the hairy of hand ruining the site - i do think you played a wrongun with AF and relationships, i still think there is need for change on that part of the board as i would not dream of posting trivial things between me and dp now for fear of the LTB brigade, however, i have been thinking about this alot - when DP and I were having problems a good many years ago, before AF was AF, she was bloody good to me, told me like it was - and it was NOT to leave DP! Yes she is vociferous when women really need to leave but i notice if its not that sort of situation she is alot more measureed or doesn't get involved.

For a few people mumsnet is a lifeline. I am shocked sometimes when some posters say that they have no one or virtually no one to ring in a personal emergency at 3am. And the sheer amount of lonely people on here.

There are other reasons for nc such as giving out too much personal information or thinking you may have outed yourself. Probably other reasons too.

I understand what you're saying PrincessFlirtyPants

But I'd worry that having a long membership might add some sort of misguided validity, to posts from long standing trouble makers/bullshitters...of which there are many on a site this big.

Hopasholic it wouldn't be for that it would be for example...

anyusername Ooh, I just love it when my husband fucks me really hard, tell me what you like your husband to do to you... member since: 26/10/2013

Ah, you've just joined up to get filthy stories.

Or trolls who join but say, I've been here for ages but wanted to name change for this... member since: 26/10/2013

Ah, I call bullshit on that as you've just joined today so this isn't a genuine name change.

1. mumsnet is not a lifeline, it is a chat forum
2. I would not pay any money to post on a chat forum
3. I'll say what I damn well like on this forum within talk guidelines (i have never been deleted in the 10 years I have been here)
4. I really think you lot hopping up and down are in danger of ruining the site
5. I hope mumsnet are aware of a silent majority who post here and are not bothered that Anyfucker was suspended and who are unaware of this mighty battle with MRAs and GFs and trolls.

I would pay, but for the numerous people on MN that have to choose between heating and eating, this is a lifeline they would not be able to afford.

There are some really good ideas though, I like the one about limited name changes. I sometimes name-change to protect my RL identity- for products tests or specific issues I fear would out me, but would happily have it limited.

And maybe that's another reason so many people NC

Perhaps they're afraid of getting shot to shit for not following the party line in some topics?

I don't think this problem will ever go away while members are allowed to name change willy nilly.

I get the reason why people NC and I agree they should be allowed to, but only if what they're saying is likely to cause them RL problems.

Name changing just because you're afraid people will disagree with you, or so you can 'safely' disagree with someone else, or so you can have a moan about MN, is pretty pathetic imo and happens far too often.

I'd rather MN set a limit on the number of NCs one person can make in a month...and if they feel something is important enough that they need to go over that limit, they should be able to contact MNHQ and ask for an extra NC.

SDT I would hope most people saw goading like that bit it appears that anyone trying to express a different point of view can have G F thrown at them now. I still feel that on Relationships there is a section setting out to stifle debate and it puts people off posting.

I like Princess' idea of the 'Member Since next to your post. Even though I've been here less than a year so potentially people could ignore me over a poster who's been here from year dot. Maybe a 'new member' 'under one year' 1-5 years, 5years plus option.

I absolutely would not use the site if I had to pay a subscription.

I like the Karma Points idea.

Or "if he/she says that again, I'm going to really lose it"

HellMouthCusty agreed. I am sick and tired of seeing 'Are you a man?' trotted out as soon as you dare to offer a different point of view/one the established posters find unacceptable.

I'm being a bit naive too I think. Trolls would just move on to style and beauty, In the News and fluffy animals I suppose.

I'm a bit naive in as much as I don't go on twitter so have only recently realised that trolls come on here and then tweet!

Once bitten, twice shy. Very wise.

Yeah, we thought the same, then it happened!

valiumredhead
To be fair, cant see mumsnet doing that, though they could decided to sell at any time. Could they or would they sell to Facebook or Twitter, especially as they court them?

Perhaps there could be a designated moderator assigned to relationships, SN, bereavement, and FWR , ie where trolls like to attack? And then a picture could be built up a bit quicker of what exactly is going on?

I wouldn't pay. We used to have to pay an annual membership in order to PM people. Most people didn't bother with that and it was eventually abolished. I also don't agree with moderators that check posts in advance. I like that up until recently there has been a pretty relaxed attitude at MNHQ. It has changed a lot over the last two years (I've been here 9 years) and not for the better. I think that is to be expected with 4.3 million users (if that statistic can be believed).

Only the most persistent trolls will change their IP after being banned and they are in a very very small minority.

You're right chip, there's a big difference.