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In what circumstances would this happen MNHQ?

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DameFellatioNelson · 04/10/2013 19:31

A poster's entire history being deleted 'at poster's request'.

I realise it has happened when there have been serious issues regarding someone's personal privacy, being outed or somehow being made to feel vulnerable/threatened in RL as a result of what they posted on MN, but why else?

I thought your policy was not to delete posts (providing they fell were within the TALK guidelines) unless they seriously compromised someone's privacy or safety, or there was potentially a legal issue.

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FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 12:37

Tee. It doesnt mean that MNHQ will never sell us on so to speak. Not sure if they are bound by some code of conduct on this?

And if we were all sold to a 3rd party, realistically MNHQ would then have no say whatsoever.

So, for me and the op and others, namechanging and being a bit careful of what we post is the name of the game.

LaQueenForADay · 05/10/2013 12:15

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DameFellatioNelson · 05/10/2013 11:24

There would be absolutely no point in namechanging if your posts are still up there for some weirdo stalker to find, would there?

I agree. but I do NC nonetheless, but only ever to protect myself from being outed/stalked by people I know in RL. I can't stop it happening but I can make it harder work, by keeping on the move as it were.

I did once get very panicky and ask MNHQ to delete a bunch of posts that specifically referred to the country I had moved to (and they very kindly indulged me) because it made me pretty identifiable to anyone who knew me in the UK. Anyone motivated enough to spend a couple of hours AS-ing could piece together enough aspects of my life in the UK and match them up with my new posts about moving abroad, and the relevant timings etc, and see clearly that it was me. It would be a piece of piss.

At the time I was a new expat and I was on a few Expat message boards doing a bit of networking as you do, and my mother cheerfully announced that she'd been on a fact-finding mission about the place I'd moved to and she'd recognised me (even with an avatar) from those boards. To say I was spooked and appalled was an understatement, because she is very nosey and a master internet stalker of everyone she ever knew EVER because she's bored and has no life. I'd said nothing of interest/controversy on there at all but MN is another matter entirely....and I felt potentially quite creeped out and like a really important part of myself had been violated. Like she'd read my diary. Which is possibly an over-reaction on my part because I don't even know if MN is on her radar at all, but the thought of it made me feel a bit sick.

I have NCed reasonably regularly ever since, but I know that a few choice key words would make it easy for her (or anyone) to work out my other user names, and gather a trail, should they feel so inclined. But the onus is on me to be a little bit sensible and circumspect, isn't it?

Much though I'd sleep well at night knowing no-one could ever do another AS on me, I admit I love a good AS myself from time to time, so I just have to roll with it, like everyone else. At least I think like everyone else? And if I've ever been an utter arse, or contradicted myself and it's there to haunt me and give ammunition to others forever more then tough titty, I'd have thought. It has never occurred to me to ask for an entire history deletion though I wish for it often usually the morning after too much gin has been taken and I may have over-shared.

I'm fairly sure the answer would be 'No' anyway, unless I could prove some dire/urgent need like in the handful of previous very well documented cases. But they tend to come off the back of well documented exciting/terrible back stories that go around MN like wildfire so it's obviously a bit Confused when it happens out of the blue for no reason you can think of.

I'd just like to know where the criteria/boundaries are set with MNHQ and that it is applied consistently and fairly and not just because someone's thrown their toys out of the pram. Or if they have then can I throw mine out too if I feel like it? Grin

But I realise that:

a) MNHQ can use their discretion however they see fit and do not have to explain themselves to me, or anyone, and

b) there may be a serious security/privacy issue I am unaware of.

But I don't expect or even want them to comment on specific cases.

So is that it then MNHQ? TSSDNCOP? Nothing to add?

And to all the people who have PMed asking for some juicy detail, forgive me if I don't answer any of you personally. There is no great drama or gossip to divulge - at least if there is then I am certainly not party to it, so no point in asking me. Grin

I just wanted to know where we all stood on our histories, for the reasons outlined above.

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ExitPursuedByADragon · 05/10/2013 11:24

How did you get on usual?

Or did you bottle it?

Reality · 05/10/2013 10:38

Hi Fenton Grin

Fenton · 05/10/2013 10:34

x-post with you Reality, lovely to see you by the way Smile

Fenton · 05/10/2013 10:33

I thought I saw this the other day (i.e what you're OP is about) - didn't know the entire posting history had been wiped out.

That's quite something Shock

Reality · 05/10/2013 10:32

I've had all my posts deleted by the very lovely MNHQ, I can never thank them enogh because I know it was a hige ask (there were about 30,000 posts iirc Blush)

But I did have to ask VERY nicely and it was for a very good reason.

Tee2072 · 05/10/2013 09:02

Well, MNHQ don't ever sell our information, so there is no need for a marketing opt out option. Or marketing opt in.

The most they do is give your details to a third party for a product test and, so far as I know and HQ have said, that third party has to also agree to not sell on our information.

So I am not sure what you are exactly worried about.

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 08:52

Quite Tee.

Marketing. Please tell us more about "usual Marketing opt out" if you dont mind.

Tee2072 · 05/10/2013 08:49

I would imagine that we can't even imagine what the internet will be like in 50 years.

Imagine plucking someone out of 1963 and putting them in front of a computer today.

ModeratelyObvious · 05/10/2013 08:39

Quoting your posts in publications is different to selling on names and addresses to Tesco, the latter is subject to the usual marketing opt out.

Of course, the company may be sold.

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 08:30

CakeBotherer. No it hasnt. But I name change which would help in worst case scenario I should think. Not absolutely sure on that. And I am a bit careful what I post, but probably not as careful as some. I certainly dont do Facebook. Emails, but again I am careful. Tricky isnt it? We never know what is round the corner.

DameFellatioNelson · 05/10/2013 07:40

That is so unfair! I once talked out my arse but MNHQ wouldn't delete it and actually laughed when I asked them

Only once Beer? Grin

Wouldn't it be great if you could do that though. No need to look a atwat ever. Not even after several gins. What bliss.

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Tee2072 · 05/10/2013 07:27

In 50 years it may not matter because we may be such an open society we'll all be using our own names anyway.

Also, in 50 years I'll be 94.

PeteCampbellsRecedingHairline · 05/10/2013 00:59

MNHQ deleted a few of my posts under an old name because I had accidentally outed myself.

CakeBotherer · 05/10/2013 00:42

And yet it hasn't stopped you from posting has it Favorite?

MonstersBalls · 05/10/2013 00:27

Which be worse though?
North Korea or the Daily Mail?

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 00:13

MNHQ can sell all of us on to the highest bidder. Nothing to stop them, is there. Then who will own our details? Tescos, Daily Mail, the Government?

FavoriteThings · 05/10/2013 00:12

My ultimate thought?
50 year down the line MN will still have all the info on us. Who knows who will run the country then. And who will own MN. The North Koreans anyone???

BeerTricksPotter · 05/10/2013 00:04

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Chubfuddler · 05/10/2013 00:02

TBH I think they were trying to prove a point rather than be v weird. They got told off.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 04/10/2013 23:59

Crikey, chub, that's terrifying. How horrible.

beer - oh, god, I don't mean me. I'm identifiable and don't care. I don't foresee starting to care, but I do feel secure knowing that if something scary happened, MNHQ can and will delete when there's a good reason.

There would be absolutely no point in namechanging if your posts are still up there for some weirdo stalker to find, would there?

You could have been posting for years thinking 'ah, it's fine, I don't mind posting a few details about my real life, after all, I'd be happy to know any MNer in RL'. And then you think 'shit, this is someone on the warpath who might now be able to work out who my kids are'.

Anyway, as I understand it, that's what gets people worried.

usualsuspect · 04/10/2013 23:55

I'm vodkaed up, it's now or never.

BeerTricksPotter · 04/10/2013 23:53

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