Lads' mags have 6 weeks to "cover up": your reaction, please!

it's not your place, or anyone else's, to decide what's best for someone else.

The only people who we're remotely deciding what's best for are our small children (is that 'pompous snobbery'? I thought it was 'responsible parenting' ). We think it's best they're not exposed to exploitative images of women in supermarkets. That's about it, really. You're trying to make something of this that isn't there.

It is my place, actually, to decide what is best for my kids

and for other children, those that may have parents that are apathetic about (or even welcome) the sexualisation of our society

Thisisaeuphemism

GoshAnne, don't you realise that working class men need to see tits when they go to the supermarket?

Flatpackhamster has decided its best for them.

No, I'm saying it's not your place, or anyone else's, to decide what's best for someone else.

Ironically, anyone who was really concerned about class issues would say that the proliferation of these kinds of mags were a way of distracting the working classes from the real inequalities in our society.

But then you're not really a class warrior are you, Flat pack? You just need to see those tits.

Classy.

GoshAnne, don't you realise that working class men need to see tits when they go to the supermarket?

Flatpackhamster has decided its best for them.

Ironically, anyone who was really concerned about class issues would say that the proliferation of these kinds of mags were a way of distracting the working classes from the real inequalities in our society.

But then you're not really a class warrior are you, Flat pack? You just need to see those tits.

Fabulous news, well done the co-op. I hate knowing they are there. My teenage daughter was also only saying a couple of weeks ago how she hates going to choose a magazine in our local store because the 'lads' magazines make her feel so uncomfortable. I will go and tell her the good news!

Does that answer your loaded question, Soupy ?

Eh? What's your point?

GoshAnneGorilla

Trying to paint this as some kind of attack on working class men is a weak and feeble tactic that:

1) Insults, demeans and patronises working class men.

2) Ignores the existence of working class women and their rights not to be demeaned by tedious, misogynistic shite.

I think that the pompous snobbery that surrounds the whole campaign demeans and patronises everyone, but there has long been a fat vein of thought that the working classes need someone clever, preferably working in the meeja in London, to tell them what's best for them.

I hope that the irony of you demeaning and patronising working class women by telling them what they're demeaned and patronised by isn't lost on you.

Ah yes. The misogyny wimmin's mags that are so low brow these days they border on the neandathal. They can go too.

I like fashion, I like make up, I like my news glossy on occasion... and I even like a naice recipe and a few vacuous features particularly about Araminta Auld-Bobbins types latest Pedlar's find. I do not like looking at emaciated models or long lens pictures of female s'lebs on the beach. I don't want to see wrinkles, stretch marks and cellulite highlighted with a circle. I don't want to be told how to "get the look" of a photoshopped teenager.

ok so we're agreed all magazines except like 'cars!' 'fishing!' 'computers!' etc can go in the bin and no, none of us will be crying into our wine glasses if we don't get to look at scantily clad men on magazine covers whilst popping in the shop for a pint of milk.

all strawmen covered?

Yup, I wouldn't care if some of those glossy mags presumably aimed at bourgeois women were bagged too.

hey, there is a tit mag called Loaded isn't there.

loaded

Suits me. Get rid of the lot of 'em. Does that answer your --loaded- question, Soupy ?

tbf i'd happily see cosmo and every other magazine stuck in a black bag too. magazines that make you feel fat and worthless in order to sell you the solution to your fat and worthless self in the form of make up, clothes, fake tans etc would be no great loss to the world.

The Co-op has had a lot of financial problems lately, and seemed in danger of having to sell off banking, so it's very good to hear them reminding us what the Co-operative businesses are for.

I agree Soupy, all magazines of that type should be in "pervert pouches".

Manfrom, you are Piers Hernu AICM£5. :o

Much easier for mags such as cosmo to adapt though as this is not their main focus. If it became an issue they would just not use those types of pictures.

So, this covers "lads mags". How about magazines such as Cosmopolotan which have scantily clad females on the front or semi-naked male celebrities?

Trying to paint this as some kind of attack on working class men is a weak and feeble tactic that:

1. Insults, demeans and patronises working class men.

2. Ignores the existence of working class women and their rights not to be demeaned by tedious, misogynistic shite.

Games I don't play: class vs gender. Try harder Manfrom. Why don't you start doing the "slippery slope of censorship" argument so we can laugh at that too.

Wtf is it with these men who think women should accept any type of shoddy treatment and that any type of fighting for our rights is somehow detrimental to society.

Perhaps it is even simpler than that

He wants to preserve the status quo

Currently people from all walks of life and demographic are confronted by sexualised images of women and he thinks men's rights to wank over big plastic tits makes that absolutely fine

no i think he's saying all i give a shit about is men and class is a good thing to hide it behind so let's call this a middle class campaign against working class men and totally ignore the huge (half of the demographic of the world) elephant in the room: women.

I think Manfrom is fighting for children to have the right to see sexual images in out of context places, places where their parents have no choice but to expose their children to them

Yes ?

I have a lot of time for the co-op. I think they have a good product range and decent fair trade and animal welfare policies. I am delighted that they are doing this too.

So there can't be two separate campaigns at the same time then?