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Vipers' nest? Come counter our hissy rep with your stories of Mumsnet Niceness

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HelenMumsnet · 12/04/2013 10:42

Hello.

Well, it's been bit of a week, hasn't it?

And we don't know about you but we think it's time folks outside MN knew a bit more about the lovely side of Mumsnet. All this stuff about harridans and vipers' nests kinda feels a bit lopsided to us - and is certainly making us pull on our Uggs Wink and want to redress the balance a bit.

We're really chuffed to see such kind words about MN on Talk at the moment and also to see blogs like MmeLindor's that focus so beautifully on the "other side" of Mumsnet.

But we also want to publish, for all the world and the odd tabloid journo to see, a kinda showcase/archive of all the Lovely & Nice Things Mumsnetters Have Done over the years. And we'd really like your help with that, please.

Obviously, we have lots of Mumsnet Loveliness in mind already: ranging from Woolly Hugs to the Christmas Appeal and including everything from the lost toy on Blackpool Pier to the small acts of kindness shown every day from one MNer to another in need of help, advice or support.

But we really want you to tell us, too, about the Lovely Things you've seen (or taken part in) on Mumsnet. Please post them here - with links to the threads if you possibly can.

We'll read them all and, when we've run out of tissues, we'll publish some of your favourites for all the world to see.

Oh, and here's a pic of (warm and lovely) nest of vipers, courtesy of the fab women behind Woolly Hugs, to kinda set the tone Smile

OP posts:
hazeyjane · 14/04/2013 18:58

On a personal level, since finding out that ds had 'problems' when he was 7 months old, mumsnet sn boards have saved my sanity. I have found more help, support and friendship there, than I could ever have imagined. People there have held my hand whilst waiting for tests, been there when I have been in hospital with ds, helped fill out endless forms, given me strength to fight for support and celebrated when ds has achieved milestones that I feared he never would. I feel truly privileged to have such friends.

Cup of Tea's threads about beautiful Bea, for me, were the best of Mumsnet.

littleducks · 14/04/2013 17:12

I'm not going to post links, as I'm sure it is appropriate. But the knowledge and support on MN that means the most to me:

When a poster discovered her 'd'h had been sexually abusing her daughter and needed somewhere to talk about it and the following events, as she left and dealt with the aftermath. The ability to discuss something as horrific as that and have people listen 24hrs a day, anonomously (can you imagine how hard it would be to start that conversation in rl) is so important.

The ectopic pregnancy threads, I can remember more than one. Again something not much talked about in rl but can potentially save lives.

birdsnotbees · 14/04/2013 16:53

This is a place of small kindnesses. Advice to the sleep-deprived and desperate. Reassurance to parents. Company to the lonely. Tough love to those that need it. Laugh out loud silliness at all other times.

Acts of small kindness do not good headlines make. Women being kind to each other do not fulfill the DM stereotype.

But that's fine. Because that's just how we roll, people. And for everyone (and Mumsnet) who has ever taken the time to answer any of my threads: thank you. You've helped me more than you could ever possibly know (or perhaps you know all too well).

Mouseface · 14/04/2013 16:23

WARNING - POTENTIALLY UPSETTING POST ABOUT 'THAT' EASTENDERS STORYLINE

I hope you don't mind me adding this to the thread but one thing I remember very vividly, was the delicate, compassionate and sensitive manner with which MNHQ and MNers supported the masses of devastated posters who were both directly and indirectly affected by the horrific EastEnders cot death/baby swap storyline, (myself included) which the BBC broadcast for their big 'lets get our ratings sky high' Christmas storyline.

It caused nationwide upset and uproar, as well as on here for a lot of bereaved parents, but also for those who hadn't lost a child/ren simply because of the way some of the characters were portrayed. It was utterly farcical and down right insulting at times.

I remember a lot of 'well just turn it off, don't watch it, no-one's forcing you to sit through it' type comments on the support threads (which is the posters' right to say of course) but it really wasn't as simple as that.

The storyline was built up over a number of weeks and strewn across many a front page of the newspapers or magazines in most shops, plus it was advertised on the BBC in between programs.

I personally felt that the lovely folks at MNHQ and co, did a bloody brilliant job explaining the 'problem' we had with the storyline. After meeting with The Powers That Be, SEE HERE, the story was eventually cut short, with some parts rewritten and it was reported at the time that many of the actors, researchers and crew involved in constructing the storyline were offered counselling afterwards. Also that Samantha Womack quit the show because of the storyline, saying that she didn't want to do it in the first place. As I said, it was only reported so I'm not saying this is a fact.

However, rumour has it, and even EastEnders themselves have hinted for most of last week, that 'Ronnie' may be set to make a return. I wonder how the story will pan out if she does?

And let's not forget of course, all of the other wonderful work and educating that MN/MNHQ is responsible for. The EastEnders and We Believe You campaigns are the two that touched my own personal life the most, so thank you to all of you who were involved in them both :) xx

Mumsnet is so much more than words on a screen. Thanks

thewhistler · 14/04/2013 15:50

People have mentioned Trazzle, Cup has been on here herself, Maryz has kept ne sane.

The OFBT area offers more private support, which à lot of us use.

I came on yesterday to resolve an IT problem. I got help with issues around care for an elderly parent as well. I can always find an expert or someone with good advice to help me ask thé right questions.

I think that there are times when the tone can be aggressive, and if everyone followed the ltb advice that is given there would be few people remaining in partnerships in the country. Perhaps that might be good.

But the really distinctive thing is the range of expérience, across an equally wide range of countries and cultures. The google map of splodges for Trazzle's little boy is indeed the prime example

Punkatheart · 14/04/2013 14:58

The Media floats over the surface of things - with a spec already formulated, then squeezes in the facts to fit.

Mumsnet has a different dynamic to real life. You can sob over a keyboard - not caring how you look - without feeling you have to put on a show or even your pants! In that terrible state, I have been put back together again. When you discover that many other women - good souls - have been through similar experiences, the lonely feelings subside.

Also - some of the funniest things have been seen on MN - such as the idea of sticking a garlic clove up one's backside. Oh yes.

AnnieLobeseder · 14/04/2013 14:23

I don't know if anyone has mentioned them yet, but both the Everyday Sexism Project and Let Toys be Toys campaigns started on Mumsnet, and they are both having a huge and amazing impact and improving the lives of women and children.

JugglingFromHereToThere · 14/04/2013 13:23

More heart-breaking yet also beautiful posts here this morning ....

Agree with 5madthings about the press ... "they are fools"

skyebluesapphire · 14/04/2013 13:02

I have had mixed experiences with MN, but it has been a godsend to me overall.

If it wasn't for Mumsnet I would not have divorced my XH so quickly and if I hadn't, I may have then lost my house due to his debts. MN also advised on "the script" and made me see that the contact between my XH and his mate's wife, was not just friendly...

I am on L's thread and to see the power of MN with all the gifts she was given for her baby and the hundreds of cards she has been sent, with followers from all over the world, is all just amazing.

The other threads, with sick children, are so sad, yet inspiring to see the amount of help and support that people give to each other.

I haven't met anyone yet, but have made facebook friends with some people so you can know them in RL too.

Overall, Mumsnet is a wonderful support to people, both male and female, who need help at desperate times, or sometimes just for advice. It has got me through some dark days and I hope it will get me through the rest of them too.

5madthings · 14/04/2013 12:55

Oh and i apologise for the swearing in my post but actually the attitude to mnet in the press has really pissed me off, they choose not to mention the good that mnet is because being negative makes an easy story.

5madthings · 14/04/2013 12:40

Waves back and wipes tears.

See this is mnet, i have never met greengoose but we made a simple connection over the fact our daughters share a name.

Happy birthday to Merryn, and love to you and your boys.

Couch25k is great, i will cheer you on! I cant knit/crochet and had never run before but am proud to be involved in.the woollyhugs running.

Xxx

greengoose · 14/04/2013 12:29

Hi 5MADTHINGS! (waves frantically while trying to not derail thread)!
I see you around and think of you often, and of course your Merryn too. I even remember what colour wool your blanket square is!
Well done for getting involved in the run, I think im going to do couch to 5k after this little one is here in the hope of running next year! Thankyou for all your support last year, it really did help, things are still v difficult (especially this week, it was Merryn's birthday on fri) but we are getting though, taking our little girl in our hearts. X

Thread, as you were...... (sorry)!

5madthings · 14/04/2013 12:15

(((greengoose))) xxx love from another mummy of a merryn xxxx i cant believe its almost been a year, i lurk on rainbow babies (another amazing thread and source of support) but feel i would be intruding to post somehow xx but o think of you often xxx

5madthings · 14/04/2013 12:11

If the media want to see what love and supportnet can offer they only need to look at trazzletoes thread.

We all know mnet can be forthright and there is debate and yes you can get a flamming in aibu, hell i have had one myself.

But fgs at anytime there are a massive amount of threads offering advice and support from the mundane to the absolutelu heartbreaking.

The press arent interested because they dont make a good story. Well they are fools because those threads such as trazzkes and beatricesmummy and expats and many many more show the amazing strength of mnet. The compassion, the love and the unwavering support of people who are strangers. Strangers who care and want to help, even if its just words on a screen or thoughts or prayer.

These threads show human spirit and compassion at its best. The ability to care and have empathy is what makes us human and mnet has that by the fucking bucketload.

greengoose · 14/04/2013 12:11

When my baby girl, Merryn, died a year ago (next week) I told her story here.

I found compassion, understanding, and (sadly) other Mums who had been where I was. They said her name, asked about her, and listened as i shared my little girl in a way that i couldnt in RL. They held me up and in turn allowed me to be strong for my other DCs. They showed me I was normal to want to ttc so soon. They held my hand, and continue to hold it through a MC. They are still holding it now I am 20 wks pregnant, with a baby I don't know I would have been brave enough to try for without them standing by me.

The lovely woolly hugs team made us a blanket, that we are about to receive. (excited). It will be how I will tell Merryn's little brother in years to come about his sister, and how she inspired such love and kindness from strangers. This inspired me to learn to crochet, and to make some squares to send, a little thing but also a huge thing.

WHs also started a project sending little hugs to sick children in hospital because of our story about how much a crocheted blanket Merryn had received from GOSH meant to us. In this way her life has meaning and has inspired goodness and love. I cannot tell you how much that means.

Mouseface · 14/04/2013 12:04

Dilly - ^
Warning: do not confuse Mumsnet with Netmums. It?s like confusing Father Jack from ?Father Ted? with the Pope. You know, if the Pope said ?hun? a lot and used smileys.^

That is brilliant. Grin

chickensaladagain · 14/04/2013 10:54

I was in an abusive relationship

I felt I couldn't talk to anyone in real life about it as to the outside world our relationship was perfect

The good folk of mumsnet offered me a hand to hold, practical advice and didn't criticise when I wasn't ready to act on their advice immediately

But above all, this bunch of faceless strangers made me believe I was worth something, made me believe that I could cope with the change and that I wasn't ruining my dd's lives by splitting up their family

3 years on, I have reached out when things have been tough, but I've now also been one of those faceless strangers that can offer support and hand holding to women in the same position I was

fuzzypicklehead · 14/04/2013 09:55

Oooooh, I must get a photo up! The guy's super secret squirrel project turned out to be a kick-ass pair of braces, and with the spare ringpulls we made lots of we made lots of these.

But do you know what's really cool? He got enough practice making them that he can do it independently now. That skill means that if we help him set up the right contacts, he'll be able to earn a small, independant income of his own--something he's never had before.

Thurlow · 14/04/2013 09:43

The simple answer to any journalist picking holes in MN today is to point them to the massive outpouring this weekend for Trazzle and her family. I'm almost in tears reading her thread and the responses from everyone.

MegBusset · 14/04/2013 09:17

Going back a while now, but the Sleep Is For The Weak threads were a total lifeline when I was utterly on my knees with non-sleeping DS1.

EmpressOfThe7OceansLovesMN · 14/04/2013 08:51

What did your man make from the ring pulls in the end, fuzzypicklehead?

LadyFlumpalot · 14/04/2013 08:45

The thread where a posters DS had lost his favourite White Stuff stuffed toy back when he was a baby. The posters father had bought it for him and it had sentimental value.

The poster had searched high and low for a replacement without any success. Another poster on Mumsnet had one lying about which they sent in time for Xmas Day as a surprise for the DS and Grandad.

That made me smile. A lot.

fuzzypicklehead · 14/04/2013 08:20

Oooh, Dilly the Father Jack comparison is right on! I don't know why I haven't seen it before.

Dillytante · 14/04/2013 08:16

A while back I wrote a blog post on Mumsnet along the lines of this thread. I don't want to seem like I am touting it about so I have c&ped it:

In the last month I have received via Mumsnet*: an offer of a free holiday home for a week, some dried lavender, Estée Lauder Night Repair serum (that was a MN giveaway). Some ebooks and resources to improve my writing, some yarn to make so more blanket squares, and volunteers to try out a pattern I designed. That is just in the last month. From complete strangers.

When the above Mumsnetter recently offered my family the chance to stay in her house abroad she said ?Not sure what I will tell my husband, probably that you are from university? because who would believe that people who have never met in real life could feel the need to do such a thing? It is testament to the generosity of Mumsnetters over the years (and the things that I have done in return) that my own husband didn?t bat an eyelid when I told him that a person from Mumsnet who I knew only by user name had made such an offer.

But my love for Mumsnet is not just cupboard love. It?s about more than the material things I have received. It is about the advice and support I have received in spades.

When I have been up at 3 in the morning crying because breastfeeding was going so badly, Mumsnetters have been there. When I had a home birth, not only did Mumnetters give me loads of advice in making the decision in the lead up, they were there cheering me on and doing virtual knitting in support while I posted between contractions.

I?ve cyber stalked Mumnetters and found them at my workplace, at my knitting group, and conversely I have converted my friends to the Cult of Mumsnet. Some people are very coy about their affiliation with the site in real life, partly to preserve their anonymity, and possibly partly because of the bad press it often gets.

Some of the criticisms are deserved. Mumsnet has gone through periods of turmoil where certain groups of posters have ruled the virtual playground. But these criticisms are true for many online forums, and as with every forum it has evolved, and grown.

A lot of the bad press it gets stems from bitterness and jealously. Liz Jones takes a crack or two at it on occasion, but her dazzling wit and astute observations (sorry, it?s hard to convey sarcasm in the written word) continues to be outpaced by the shrewd and scintillating posters who chose to put their brains and words to good use on Mumsnet rather than waste it on the misogynistic heap of shite that is the Daily Mail.

During the last general election, the media hailed it as the Mumsnet election, and politicians and politicos flocked to the site to woo the votes of its posters. It was mostly media hype, but a nod to the rise to prominence of the female story in the slightly more egalitarian world of the Internet (unless you count the Guardian Forums). But in the same way that the media and government used Mumsnet as a symbol of all women, so too is Mumsnet used as a way to beat all women down. When journalists and comedians mock Mumsnet, what they are really mocking is women?s freedom of speech. Ho ho ho, let?s laugh at the women who think their lives are meaningful and who think they have something important to say. God forbid that mums engage in anything but tending to their children and husbands. It shows complete ignorance and, at the very least, lack of proper research. For you don?t have to look very far on Mumsnet to find women (some men, but it is mostly women) making a real difference in the world, whether it is advising another mum how she can continue to breastfeed her baby, making blankets for the recently bereaved, or taking part in numerous campaigns to bust rape myths, improve miscarriage care, and improve reproductive choices in third world countries.

On a personal note, I truly believe Mumsnet has made me a better parent, you know, apart from all the time I?ve spent neglecting them. If it wasn?t for Mumsnet I wouldn?t have stuck with breastfeeding, I wouldn?t have done Baby Led Weaning with my children, I wouldn?t have worn my second child in a sling for so many months. That?s not to say that those choices themselves make me a better parent, but knowing about these choices, finding that there is more out there than Gina Ford and naughty steps, has given me the confidence to make the right choices for me and my children. And that?s not to say that all Mumsnetters are the sling wearing, lentil-weaving type; far from it. There are many Mumsnetters who would rather poke themselves in the eye with a blunt pencil than wap their baps out to feed their children, or who would rather spend an evening at a Peter Andre autobiography book launch than even to discuss parenting online. There are even people on Mumsnet who don?t have children. And that?s the thing about Mumsnetters, they are so diverse that it is impossible to even try and levy any sort of criticism against them as a community.

If this post sounds familiar, it?s because I have written a paean to Mumsnet before, when I started contributing to the Mumsnet Woolly Hugs Blankets (if you are bored by my writing yet another sycophantic blog post, then tough, it?s my blog!) Once again I find myself with another couple of balls of yarn, donated by yet another stranger, to make squares for a blanket of someone I don?t know. But I don?t need to know her. I just know she has lost a child and needs support. God forbid it should ever happen to me, but I know that Mumsnet would be the place I would turn to in my time of need.

*Warning: do not confuse Mumsnet with Netmums. It?s like confusing Father Jack from ?Father Ted? with the Pope. You know, if the Pope said ?hun? a lot and used smileys.

WeAreEternal · 14/04/2013 06:43

Just the other day, linky, I was upset and ended up crying in the toilets at work and a colleague told me I was unprofessional and reported me for misconduct.
I felt awful about it but this hiddious nest of vipers were lovely and made me feel so much better and actually annoyed with my bitchy colleague.

Also a couple of years ago I was on a 11 hour train journey, and MNing (as you do) halfway through the journey one train was delayed and it messed up all of my connections and I ended up stranded 4 hours from home as there were no more trains that evening, and the worst part was that I didn't have my bank card with me and had no way to get any money (I only had £15 cash).
I was panicking and not sure what I was going to do and MN were amazingly supportive.

Lots of people offered advice, several MNers offered to lend me the money for a taxi or hotel, and a couple of MNers who were local to where I was offered to let me stay at their house and an amazing MNers offered me a lift home, which I took her up on. She was so lovely and wouldn't let me give her any money for the lift.