New NHS guidelines on IVF treatment to extend age limit up to 42 - what do you think?

Well if I'm deleted for that, I won't argue with it :)

So sorry gin xx

And Sorrel, sorry that the timing of this is crap for you xx

Tut tut ariel - I was deleted (for the first time ever in 2 years of being here!) for possibly calling someone 'narrow minded'. I'm actually quite embarrassed ... I had a shiny unblemished record.

I should have gone all out... :)

Oops, sorry.

So sorry gin -

Take care, Gin. Ignore the nasties.

Gin, look after yourself.

Take care Gin x

I'm bowing out of this thread. I have no problem with people having different views, but the insensitivity of some posters is difficult to handle.

Going on this thread whilst miscarrying my miracle baby was clearly silly.

Hopefully I won't miscarry my ivf baby, imagine the extra cost that would put on the NHS How very selfish that would be

On the whole, I think this is welcome news. On a personal note, I feel rather sad as I turned 43 two months ago and was turned down for IVF aged 40 due to my age.

well Phineyj I think you're nearer to the truth than you realise...how do you feed 20-30-40 billion people?....its not if they force controlled reproduction...its when they will....think ill start that thread as my opinion has evolved into something worth a discussion and has slightly hijacked this thread...I am sorry if i've upset anyone and anyone who knows me knows that its something i try not to do...good luck if you're trying and I understand why..xxx

I did post upthread but maybe it is worth my posting again.

I haven't had fertility problems. I am a taxpayer.

I think the new guidlelines are long overdue, to get some fairness and parity in place across the country.

I support the recommendations, particularly the shorter timescale.

That's not true. One person was told her opinion wasn't valid (yes, those were the words) because she had been staggeringly rude.

I'm usually a little calmer than this - and of course I think that reconstructive surgery / skin conditions etc etc should be treated. The same way I think infertility (both cause and consequence) should be. Because as was very well argued up thread, the psychological impact of infertility can be just as difficult as any range of other conditions and treatments. The psychological cost (financial, emotional and relational) can be massive. It's not as simple as 'treat / don't treat'.

Both options have financial implications - which NICE will have considered very carefully before making a recommendation towards sooner, and at a later age, treatment.

No it's generally been posters who have mentioned the word "entitlement" in an accusing way, and you were one of them Sheila.

Really evil? Seems to me that any posters who haven't agreed 100% with the idea that IVF availability on the NHS have been shouted down and told that unless they have experienced infertility they should keep their opinions to themselves.

Johnny the logical conclusion of your point of view is that everyone should be strictly controlled regarding reproduction, not just the infertile.

There have been several different opinions, Sheila. Almost all of them have been tactful. Yours is not one of them, I'm afraid.

ok ill leave this thread as its obviously a little to emotional for me...and to answer a few insults...I'm 41 and my youngest is 18...so I grew up and can see that having FIVE children (i lost one child to flu) was to much for this world to cope with...People urge to be a mum or dad is powerful and at times overwhelming but the fact remains that the world is over populated and its YOUR children who will deal with it...Naturally or IVF conceived is irrelevant to the fact that there are just many people...I won't have to fight for a loaf of bread but i fear my grand children may....I wish all those trying the very best and hope you get lucky...I'm not bashing a person just the system that makes it possible....xxx

Oh FFS