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Justine said

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GretaGip · 17/11/2012 21:28

that deletions were going to be a bit more reasonable.

I have just seen 2 deletions on a thread that totally weren;t against Talk Guidelines.

What the heck is going no?

I happen to still have a window opem, and can quote them.

It's really annoying and actually unacceptable, as it makes sane poaters look like Vipers when they're not. I thought this was going to be eradicated.

I am really saddened.

HQ?

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Nagoo · 17/11/2012 22:13
MrsDeVere · 17/11/2012 22:12

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GretaGip · 17/11/2012 22:11

I reported the PA on you, Porto.

It was disgusting.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 22:10

@Portofino

Can I have it now?

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GretaGip · 17/11/2012 22:10

I'm sorry, Helen. This is probably not what you need on a Saturday night.

It's obviously a fine line to tread to decide what to dlete and what not to.

I'm just a bit sore about having a deletion ages ago that I still feel wasn;t desrved, and now I can;t claim I'm all shiny and pure on MN. Sad

So, thise sour grapes are affecting my response to the two deletions in reply to the outandout PA.

I think I'll go back to InanityTrulyReigns and do some arsetwittery.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 22:10

@MrsDeVere

I think its a bit bangoutoforder to be able to say something really horrible then get it deleted yourself. Having your cake and eating it, that is.

But she didn't. If we'd agreed to delete at her request, you would have seen "message withdrawn at poster's request"

We deleted that post before she reported it. (Cos someone else reported it first!)

Portofino · 17/11/2012 22:09

Sorry Helen - I came back from a James Bond/Curry orgy and she said she had reported herself. Anyhow, I apologised for the autocorrect, and am a bit stunned at all the fuss.

MrsDeVere · 17/11/2012 22:08

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SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 22:08

I do see what Porto means - she had a nasty rant, self reported and it was deleted - it's the same result as a retraction (though I do see that MNHQ can't do much about that)
Other than my change-of-deleted-message-message plan...

Portofino · 17/11/2012 22:06

Can.t see any beardage from here, Sue.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 22:06

@Portofino

She said it, I never reported it. I do not believe she should be able to retract it.

She didn't, did she? It was deleted, not withdrawn...

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 22:05

Good point Porto.

Well, you'll have to take it on trust that to me, deluded meant wrong or sadly mistaken. As this seems to be all about me

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 22:05

@Portofino

The personal attack was on ME. I am happy for the post to stand.

That's very nice of you, Porto. But if we've seen it, we're duty-bound to delete it.

(And I think our heads would explode if we had to check with the person who was attacked every time first.)

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 22:04

Oh, did you? Grin. I don't read your posts as such

Portofino · 17/11/2012 22:04

She said it, I never reported it. I do not believe she should be able to retract it.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 22:04

@SuePurblybiltbyElves

But I don't get the difference between 'deluded' and 'wrong' in this case. 'You're wrong' is surely not a PA?

I am sure you do not make buses shriek Grin

Saying someone is wrong is disagreeing with their opinion.

Saying they are delusional is implying their mental health/ability to think clearly is impaired. Which makes it personal.

Portofino · 17/11/2012 22:02

The personal attack was on ME. I am happy for the post to stand.

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GretaGip · 17/11/2012 22:02

Hang on a cottonshuckingminute.

"SuePurblybiltbyElves Sat 17-Nov-12 21:52:35

You could have added that my post ^ was in response to a very unhinged-sounding sweary rant at Porto, followed by a frothing NEST OF VIPERS ENTITLED SCUM MN longer post.
Tsk, Ms Greta."

I said she'd done a bangoutoforder PA well, some version of those letters.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 22:02

@GretaGip

So If SueP typed a message to me Helen that said:

"You're chunky, you hefty sod."

Would that be deleted, as it's true?

I can't get my head around this.

I'll bet I can find a gazullion worse PAs than the delusional one that are still extant.

Thanks for coming on the thread, though. Smile [polite]

It would depend on context, GretaGip.

In the context of a bunfighty thread about weightwatching (for example), probably.

in the context of an affectionate chat between MN mates, probably not.

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 22:02

But I don't get the difference between 'deluded' and 'wrong' in this case.
'You're wrong' is surely not a PA?

I am sure you do not make buses shriek Grin

Nagoo · 17/11/2012 22:01

wrong means 'I don't agree'.

delusional means 'you are mistaken because there is something wrong with you'.

IMHO.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 22:00

@SuePurblybiltbyElves

XP. Really - 'delusional' is a personal attack? Is 'you're wrong' a personal attack too? Delusional in that sense surely means that you think you're right and you're not.

Yes. A personal attack can still be a personal attack, even if it stating the truth.

So, "You're an ugly cow, HelenMumsnet" is a personal attack, even if I do indeed make the back ends of buses shriek in horror.

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GretaGip · 17/11/2012 22:00

So If SueP typed a message to me Helen that said:

"You're chunky, you hefty sod."

Would that be deleted, as it's true?

I can't get my head around this.

I'll bet I can find a gazullion worse PAs than the delusional one that are still extant.

Thanks for coming on the thread, though. Smile [polite]

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SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 21:58

XP. Really - 'delusional' is a personal attack?
Is 'you're wrong' a personal attack too? Delusional in that sense surely means that you think you're right and you're not.

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 21:56

Oh, that was a very reasonable post, Helen Grin
you're no fun
How come you got a Saturday night shift? Did you do something terrible on the night out?

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