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Justine said

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GretaGip · 17/11/2012 21:28

that deletions were going to be a bit more reasonable.

I have just seen 2 deletions on a thread that totally weren;t against Talk Guidelines.

What the heck is going no?

I happen to still have a window opem, and can quote them.

It's really annoying and actually unacceptable, as it makes sane poaters look like Vipers when they're not. I thought this was going to be eradicated.

I am really saddened.

HQ?

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MmeLindor · 17/11/2012 23:46

I am going to petition MNHQ to have YATBAC included in the official acronym list.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 23:46

Look, in the end, it's not about semantics; it's about civility.

We welcome robust debate and strong differences of opinion.

But we ask that everyone treats everyone else with civility and respect, even while having the strongest possible opposite opinion.

So rather than asking which words and wording are the most delete-dodgy ways of insulting/having a pop at another poster, we'd rather you didn't insult/have a pop at them all.

Have a pop at their opinions instead.

Play the ball, people, not the player

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 17/11/2012 23:45

I love "some of your characteristics are those of a cunt, but the number is below the threshold at which you yourself are a cunt." I will look for a RL opportunity to use that.

YATBAC is snappier though.

ChippingInLovesAutumn · 17/11/2012 23:45

Sorry, who?

Tart.

Isn't it past your bedtime :pppppppppppppp

KnottyLocks · 17/11/2012 23:41

Arse! Misplaced Grin there.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 23:41

@ChippingInLovesAutumn

Helen - 'you are delusional' can't possibly be a 'personal attack'.

Delusional:

having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions

a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary

How can either of those consitute a personal attack?

Sorry

Because delusional also has a medical definition, associated with psychiatric illness.

KnottyLocks · 17/11/2012 23:41
Grin
LadyMaryChristmas · 17/11/2012 23:41

I don't like 'you're deluded'. People with mental illnesses suffer delusions, so it would be wrong to associate delusions with something that you disagree with.

MmeLindor · 17/11/2012 23:41

NOT THAT I WAS CALLING HELEN A CUNT

MmeLindor · 17/11/2012 23:40

Can we say that, Helen?

You appear to be a cunt

I haven't called anyone a cunt, have I?

OatyBeatie · 17/11/2012 23:40

YATBAC is very catchy. I like YATBAC.

KnottyLocks · 17/11/2012 23:40

Am embracing YATBAC forthwith

MmeLindor · 17/11/2012 23:39

Oaty
We need an, 'you appear to be a cunt, but I am willing to be convinced otherwise' emoticon.

Or we could use YATBAC

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 23:39

You're deluded = you are mistaken in thinking you are right
Your posts are shitty = what you say and the tone in which you say it is shitty

I don't think either should be deleted tbh, but I think the shitty thing is worse.

Anyway, I'm arguing for the sake of arguing now, MNHQ can very much do as they like, course they can. Their site, innit?

LadyMaryChristmas · 17/11/2012 23:38

I'm personally in favour of 'stop being a twat'. I can't see this going down too well though.

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 23:37

@ChippingInLovesAutumn

Helen - are you ignoring me :(

Sorry, who?

MNHQ
HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 23:37

@SuePurblybiltbyElves

Well, quite. The poster in question called someone else's posts 'shitty', mid-rant. That's not been deleted, or even reported I shouldn't think - nor do I think it should be.

Indeed they shouldn't. Though we rather wish she hadn't posted that - not very civil.

LadyMaryChristmas · 17/11/2012 23:36

I dunno, Sue. Saying someone's posts are 'shitty' is different to calling a person 'shitty' IYSWIM? It's a bit like your child when you tell them off. You don't say you don't like them, you say you don't like what they are doing. I think Confused

ChippingInLovesAutumn · 17/11/2012 23:36

Helen - are you ignoring me :(

OatyBeatie · 17/11/2012 23:36

(I'm only messing about btw. I've never felt annoyed by deleting policy. I don't think I'm ever on the right threads to see the problem.)

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HelenMumsnet · 17/11/2012 23:35

@MmeLindor

Hmm, I just worry that we are getting so tied up in knots about language that some quite tame posts are being deleted.

And that as we get more and more devious about what we post, we will still be insulting the poster, but not deletable.

'You are nuts / mad as a box of frogs / delusional ... ' are not allowed but 'your opinions are seriously fucked up' could stay?

Strictly speaking, MmeLindor, yes. But, as we posted earlier, it does all depend on context.

The same words "You are nuts / mad as a box of frogs / delusional" could be posted with very different intent, from affectionate to deliberately insulting.

We do always try to read reported posts in context.

OatyBeatie · 17/11/2012 23:34

So perhaps on the safe side we ought to say "Some of your opinions are mad, although the number is below the threshold at which you can be designated mad in virtue of your opinions."

And perhaps we could say "Some of your characteristics are those of a cunt, but the number is below the threshold at which you yourself are a cunt."

Can we have an emoticon for that please?

MmeLindor · 17/11/2012 23:33

You know what - if I post AIBU and am CLEARLY U - then I expect people to say, 'Don't be such a silly moo. YABU'.

I have done this, and accepted after 6 or 7 YABU that I was being a silly moo.

SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 23:33
SuePurblybiltbyElves · 17/11/2012 23:33

Well, quite. The poster in question called someone else's posts 'shitty', mid-rant. That's not been deleted, or even reported I shouldn't think - nor do I think it should be.

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