MNHQ moving a thread AGAIN due to bereavement without OP asking.

... I mean interjections from MNHQ reminding people not to behave like beeeatches

I think MNHQ is concerned about AIBU. Interjections there have increased recently

I cannot immagine the pain with which those brave parents wrote those posts, and made people aware of commonly practiced medical and hospital procedures that could be fatal, and were, for children.

And on each of those threads, several of us posted to let them know there was also a place for them to come for support in the Bereavement area.

Helen, would anyone there be prepared to consider our points regarding AIBU at all?

Agree Ed

It has already happened twice in recent times! Chez12's thread, for example. Yes, she was sharing her experience of her son and his preventable death, but she was also very bravely raising awareness of a virus that could potentially claim the lives of other children.

But nope, put her in Bereaved section.

Ditto hellomynameisfred, whose thread was raising awareness of ECV. But nope, move it and then make her sanitise it to keep it in chat.

ANY thread dealing with the death of a poster's child quickly gets moved to Bereavement.

And you can go a very long way without breaking talk guidelines.

Of course the occasional thread in there is reasonable.

It's just that when some people feel like being aggressive, they gravitate to that place because they know it is accepted and expected.

It's an enabler for poor consideration for others, for too-blunt speaking, for insulting people to the point of tears.

That doesn't mean that everyone who uses it exploits it. But for those who wish to, it's perfect.

"AIBU has it's good points. It's good when it's 3am and you need to fight talk to someone. It's good when you just need to fight interact with someone.

Life can be lonely and sometimes fighting talking to someone is just what you need to do."

Which proves my point about AIBU exactly. How is fighting about 'by parents for parents' and for being here to support each other?

I think AIBU has a place on MN.

The posts on Liras thread were all fair even if they didnt totally agree with her.

AIBU is not full of 'monsters'

Liras thread proves that.

Its used by MN members that post on other areas too.

or just an experiment to see how many 'now's I could get into one post. I'm sharing a room with i-robot and I cannot think.

x posts, that was to Quint.

Yes that might work. I do wonder if it is too late now and the AIBU style is too ingrained in people's expectations of MN behavour, now.

I've been saying how much I hate it for years now but no one has done anything, apart from put a little warning at the top of the page.

It's really got its teeth into MN now.

AIBU has it's good points. It's good when it's 3am and you need to fight talk to someone. It's good when you just need to fight interact with someone.

Life can be lonely and sometimes fighting talking to someone is just what you need to do.

I can honestly say, over the last 4 years (which have included my DS being diagnoses with autism) AIBU has been a bit of a lifesaver.

Soemtimes people ARE unreasonable. Sometimes, we are angry. Sometimes, we want to argue. Not because we really disagree but we are angry and we need to vent.

Don't diss AIBU. It serves a purpose.

I know what you mean though. It should be replaced with "What Would You Do", and not imply that anybody is unreasonable.

I mean the aggression follows people around the site, too. Obv the terminology isn't so much of an issue.

It doesn't do that though Quint, sadly - it just spills over into other areas of the site. You even get people writing titles in other subjects that look like AIBU titles. And often you get responses in AIBU format (yabu, yanbu) when it's posted nowhere near AIBU.

Well, at least with Aibu, you can contain the cesspit monsters in one place...

Rebecca I think moving stuff out of aibu in case it starts a debate/fight is treating posters like 2 year olds.. no dont post there you will get yelled at .. go post here in this nice fluffy topic

If you dont want a topic with debate/strong words then dont have one but if you have one and people decide to use it as it was intended then its not fair to move it

AIBU does get trolls and heated arguments but it can be much calmer and more rational. Certain things aren't about what's rational or 'reasonable' though. Grief isn't in any way reasonable and how you choose to commemorate the day your child died isn't about reason. It's a personal thing that you get to decide.