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Deletions etc

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JustineMumsnet · 30/05/2012 19:50

So we've had a get together at MNHQ and we have come up with the following set of actions/proposals, following on from the previous thread:

  1. We will make more effort to be communicative and transparent. This will include the MNHQ duty person posting on the boards more to explain a deletion of a post or a thread and providing more info in cases where we have banned or suspended someone for trolling, so folks know that we are "doing something". We will also try to provide more specific message deleted info - ie more than just because it "breaks talks guidelines" (eg because it perpetuates rape myths etc) (NB this will take a bit of time because it involves tech)
  1. We will aim to be quicker to delete threads that have been or seem to have been started purely to inflame/goad, even if it means we occasionally might make a mistake. This is to avoid the goady threads where an OP is deliberately inflaming, leading to a lot of deleted responses. We will also suspend those who we suspect of being out to deliberately goad and make sure our guidelines reflect this.
  1. We will aim for a lighter touch approach to deletions where discussion is robust but lively and interesting and "attacks" are borderline/very slight/ 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
  1. We will make sure everyone at MNHQ is aware of looking at the bigger picture - not just focus on the reported post - and is clear on what constitutes a personal attack - ie that it's ok to attack an opinion, not ok to attack a poster.
  1. Our policy on trollhunting remains not to tolerate it - so please don't do it, but please do report suspicions to us. That said, we will try to be more communicative on threads where folks suspect a troll - ie we are aware that some people have expressed doubts and we are looking into it/ we have checked this out and have no reason to believe this person is a troll/ we agree this person is not what they seem and have deleted the thread.
  1. We will hold regular chats/q&as about moderation issues and policy - monthlyish? - where we can have a good debate about any particular bugbear or issue and one of us will discuss policy and why we do what we do...

Out of interest we've checked the deletions thing and surprisingly the number of deleted messages seems to have dropped not risen year on year - even though traffic is up by more than 40%
(these include messages deleted from deleted threads - so one long thread = 1000 deletions)

Jan 1st 2011 to May 29th 2011: 81884 messages
Jan 1st 2012 to May 29th 2012: 72037 messages

Nonetheless we think people have raised some good points and we hope all trying the above will make the board better - if not we'll try something else Smile - thanks for all the input.

Please do post your thoughts/observations (disclaimer - I'm off out shortly so won't be around to respond tonight but will be back tomorrow)

OP posts:
Hullygully · 31/05/2012 09:43

Ahhhhh. It's becoming a love-in.

RowanMumsnet · 31/05/2012 09:41

Aw, thanks Get0rf (what's with all the zeros?)

get0rfm0iland · 31/05/2012 09:23

On my thread last week Rowan very kindly took the time to post a very intelligent and thoughtful post about the troll hunting/deletions topic last week - I don't know if I thanked her (if not, thanks very much for tha tRowan).

get0rfm0iland · 31/05/2012 09:20

Thanks very much Justine - that is a really measured response.

I do appreciate the way MN does take views of its members seriously. You could very easily tell us to all piss off - we on this thread are a minority of the users on MN (albeit a rather vocal minority).

And thanks for reassuring us that the apparent changes are not as a result of any commercial influence. I am aware that MN is a successful brand and thought it would have been quite likely for MN to take a view to restrict the fucks and buggers if advertisers requested it. I am glad that is not the case though.

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KatieMiddleton · 31/05/2012 09:14

Ah I knew if I went off and did RL you'd get it all sorted :)

Hullygully · 31/05/2012 09:14

I could do that.

HoneyDragonWearingLederhosen · 31/05/2012 09:13

She promised she stop and stick around now Hully, although to be on the safe side you might want to "fix" MrOlivia.

Hullygully · 31/05/2012 09:09

Olivia, you haven't had the sex AGAIN, have you?

HoneyDragonWearingLederhosen · 31/05/2012 09:08

Olivia kept procreating to get away from us.

We're so horrible we force the HQ'ers to endure babies Sad

Hullygully · 31/05/2012 09:07
RebeccaMumsnet · 31/05/2012 09:06

Olivia is still very much here, thankfully.

Hullygully · 31/05/2012 08:56

oh good

Thumbwitch · 31/05/2012 08:52

Olivia is still here, isn't she? I just thought they were referring to her need for gin... Grin

Hullygully · 31/05/2012 08:45

Olivia? Has she gorn?

BIWItheBold · 31/05/2012 08:23

And look what happened to Olivia.

We broke her.

Maryz · 31/05/2012 08:03

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PrincessPinot · 31/05/2012 07:33

Agree with BIWI, as per.

Not cricket, is it?

BIWItheBold · 31/05/2012 06:28

Hmm Not very fair to name names, is it?

TapirBackRider · 31/05/2012 04:01

Great set of proposals - I think that this "This thread has been reported by a large number of posters, so we are suspending posting on it temporarily while we sort it out" is a great idea too.

Thanks Justine

Thumbwitch · 31/05/2012 00:11

Thanks Justine! Wine

I also think locking threads temporarily while they're "sorted out" would be a top plan, but also agree that they need to be looked at first, even if it is happening in the middle of Saturday night, or there is definitely the risk of invaders causing problems.

SwedishEdith · 31/05/2012 00:05

I'm guessing Sandy is an INTJ?

CowboysGal · 30/05/2012 23:50

It's taken me forever to catch up on all this.
I'm kind of new although I've lurked here forever and was worrying that this wasn't the place I once thought it was. I'm not particularly brave when it comes to commenting or joining threads but lately have been even more reluctant because it's become a slightly confusing place to be. When the thread trying to pass on goodbyes to a couple of regulars was hijacked and ruined deleted I thought it was maybe time to find a new forum, a thought that fills me with dread because I've lurked here for a bloody long time before being confident enough to start posting
I hope that MN is the place I initially thought it was because I was really beginning to feel at home here.

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