Vicar, the list comes from Hully's post "Add your name if you no like the March of the Vanilla Po", i.e you agree that mnhq have got a bit trigger happy.

Pan fecked it up a bit though and it's redundant now really, 'cos we're all on it.

Are you new?
(1) Yes. Or no. What do you care?
(2) Waaaah, MNHQ delete this awful post!

Really. Just saw you don't believe in free speech anymore and be done with it.

This thread is an example. This is attacking a very specific group of posters who are speaking on a specific thread. It is also DESIGNED to cause a bunfight. What purpose is this thread fulfilling? Nothing other than being a bitchfest, inviting other posters to join in and bitch about regulars.

I reported it. It's still there.

I could find plenty of other examples. I don't usually bother reporting such crap to be honest, but in the light if the heavier moderation lately, and the fact that those standing up to the shittier element are the ones getting the big deletion button while the objectionable crap stays, I feel it's GROSSLY unfair.

1. ask the op to clarify something and use the words "it sounds unlikely that X would have happened

2. say "I'm reporting this thread"

3. say "Are you new?"

4. say "Can you clear up a few things op, for example in post 1 you say you are a 13 year old girl and in post 4 you say you are a 40 year old hairy handed trucker, so I'm a bit confused"

5. Make a categorical statement such as "the police won't take you to Guantanamo Bay just because you over-filled your wheelie bin".

Because all those things have been deleted recently, and the posters told not to "troll-hunt".

You may not have seen the thread but there were a lot of similar points made on it.

Are you going to delete the next thread that does it? If we report of course

Does MNHQ think it's ok for me to be called stupid and cliquey and as if Mumsnet is "all about me?", mean and bullying, a person of a certain "ilk"?

Is that all ok because the poster(s) don't use my name? Even thought they made it, and make it, very clear who they're talking about, in the most recent case going so far as to say the topic of conversation we were having.

It goes both ways doesn't it? If there are going to be deletions a-plenty for saying "I am reporting this thread" or "this post makes you sound like a racist" then why should any regulars have to put up with being constantly slagged off because we have the temerity to use the site to make friends?

Justine are you going to inhibit the 1000 post limiter thingy to stop this thread mushrooming into a load of others like a big delety discussion hydra?

If I think I need to report someone, I might want to do it for a variety of reason, not just troll hunting.
So saying 'I am reporting you' certainly doesn't give the implication that you think there is a troll issue, even if you have been strongly disagreeing what that person before hand.

I am not a prolific poster, most of you won't have a clue who I am - but I have been here nearly 2 years and I have seen some ridiculous deletions / posts left to stand. Over the time period from the start of this year it seems to have gotten FAR more often too.

Justine, I am sorry but some of the things I am reading from you are making me angry! How can you say we like freedom of speech etc (all good) and confirm that posts which call someone on racist / sexist / homophobic / whatever beliefs will be deleted. I am sorry but it shouldn't matter if the post says 'you are being racist' or 'the opinions I am reading in your post could make you sound racist' its all bollocks - Those bigoted words spouted in public, if offended someone could be arrestable!

I feel its important in this country that we call people on ignorant beliefs, if you allow freedom of speech, and allow bigoted posts to stand then you MUST allow people to call on it - if not, then this isn't the site I thought it was and I'll be off... no way am I hanging around to be told off for personal attacks if another poster is in essence attacking a whole group of people

can someone add me to the list please, before I implode!?

Why?

I do appreciate it must be a hell of a job finding balance, but isn't it nice that we are all so invested in your baby website?

Are you calling us liars?

But why does posting "I am reporting this thread" get you deleted?
It doesn't necessarily. It's a necessary but not sufficient condition.

It's... what?

Nope deletions are categorically being driven by a marketing strategy

there we have it then, in Justine?s own words ? or is this just interpretation???

Nonoe of us bother reporting so we always end up madly deleted.

What choice do we have?

If the list is still going, please add me. On phone which is slow and clunky.

It occurs to me that if everyone starts reporting anything even vaguely controversial, rude or personal, then mnhq are going to drown in reported threads. Which means they will be unable to get through them and it'll result in a lot of stuff not being deleted. IYSWIM.

So we could go report button happy...

But I think the current system isn't working. There are many (or probably actually only one or two with many threads) trolls that are just obvious - you know and I know and the dog in the streets know the threads are a load of bollocks. But you won't delete them without proof.

But you can never get proof.

I think you need to be stricter on them - if it looks like a troll, sounds like a troll and lives under a bridge it probably is a troll. And you should start emailing the op's and saying (before it descends into a riot), "I'm sorry, your thread is going to end up in a row so we are deleting it".

And you should allow people to say "I'm reporting the thread". And you should allow people to ask questions, to clarify the op.

Because the way it is going at the moment is just ridiculous.