Until the trolls are dealt with, I invite you to a mass ignore...

I cross-posted there because I took so long to write my post - but maryz, I am a bit irriated by your post. Most normal people do not need to 'think before posting' in order to provide evidence that we are not man-haters. Most MNers like men and we're mostly married to men, or have male children and dear family members. It is absurd to suggest there is any risk of MNers sounding as if they are anti-men.

Just dont directly engage with them. I make a point of answering all civil posts - for or against my pov - and just ignore the rude or personal ones. It is the best way to frustrate them IMO especially if you name the ones you are answering and just miss out the others which makes it noticeable. The contemptuous silence treatment oh dear am l being passive aggressive.

a troll is a poster who posts purely to inflame or mislead. the F4J posters have not joined up to make up their own minds, they have joined and posted to abuse and intimidate. that is trolling.

Good idea. I keep thinking I've clicked on a thread they won't take over and troll ... then they do. It spoils the whole site.

Of course not posting on their threads is a good thing to do, and so is reporting them, but there's a limit to what is sensible and I don't think anyone should risk their time and energy on them. Clearly ignoring them politely does not work - they carry on with insults and threats. I hope soon MNHQ will sort them out and it will feel ok to post again.

You are right chazbrilliantattitude. I don't like the use of the word troll as a way to position as unacceptable the contributions of a person that you are in fundamental disagreement with. It is an unpleasantly Newspeak way of doing discussion that cheapens the viewpoint it aims to protect.

what cappy said.

please?

^^

I'm keeping on - but will not post on any F4J/troll-related threads - I don't tend to post on relationship/Leave The Bastard threads which might be taken over either.

MN need to unlock the ^^

I'm with you BOF. I haven't been directly involved in much of this TBF, but and it's a big BUT, I have watched the vile attacks on posters who I respect enormously, both on here and on FB. I am sick of seeing words being twisted to oblivion, obvious threats being made and downright bullshit being spouted and, most importantly, people being censored who are stating facts, yet those talking the proverbial bollocks being allowed to stand. There is something fundamentally wrong in this and I am struggling to understand how this has come about.

oh god - surely this is exactly what they want? What would happen to MN if everyone stopped posting? we should be rallying around and doing an ignore of the F4J threads and posting. in the same way that Justine? mentioned earlier that spending our money in M&S wouldn't be a bad move atm.

F4J are entitled to post on here, its an open forum provided they stay within the talk guidelines.

I don't like what they are saying, I think they are misguided but I can choose to engage or not engage as I wish.

Should they breach the talk guidelines then I would expect them to be dealt with like any other poster.

Nope - just ignore them and continue as normal. The shit threads are still massively outweighed by the cool ones so it's no biggie

All a boycott would achieve is a win for the trolls, who thrive on disrupting sites like this.

What trolls?

Why on earth not just withdraw from posting on their threads, or responding to them. I would sympathise with that. I'm heartlily sick of all the free publicity MNers have given f4j, from the original thread about their ill-judged advertising image right until today.

Withdrawing from MN entirely seems more like a boycott of MN to pressurize MN into blocking more posters than they would wish to. Is that what you intend BOF?

I'm in. Ive had enough. I was deleted for an innocuous remark, meanwhile the troll gets to suggest that I was being abusive/agressive/trolling myself.

fuckit. I loved mumsnet. I flounced when lilsis's best friend died and it was discussed on here. I flounced during a row about secondary infertility. and now I am flouncing because the trolls are being given more voice than the rest of us.

Gosh yes, let's all get hounded off our site because of some idiocy. Great idea

I've not posted on any of the threads

isn't that a bit like letting them win?

Not posting on their threads is fine but I can just imagine the glee they would get from all of us not posting at all.