If Fathers for Justice invade again

So it was Mr Reasonable SAF?

Most of it Grimma, is because some people seem to think that opinions in favour of the current systems, or that some parents (mainly men, granted) may have been denied a contact order for very good reason, or that some men are a danger to their children are in fact evidence of man hating. F4J are now running a "campaign" against MN and M&S to try and get MN to back down.

As an aside to that, one person seems to think that the MN I Believe You campaign is unfair because it doesn't extend to believing men who say they've been unfairly denied contact with their children and another posted the AF article as fact, someone countered it and was promptly deleted and they're now running with Justine's "I find it very useful for the spiders" comment as fact.

I've lost track of this thread ... so, is most of this bunfight happening because someone has (a) misinterpreted what the 'believe' campaign is for and (b) didn't notice the date on that bbc link?

it wasn't frothyman.

No, thisis best be on the safe side, don't want to upset the caped crusader. Oh no, that's batman isn't it?

interesting state side equivalent type org story

TBF SAF didn't say which one, I just presumed it was the frother

I've withdrawn that last message if it was Mr frothing deleted ranter who sent the pm.

It was all very unedifying.

Was that Spydiii I presumed it was the other one, "bannedinaminute"?

Lovely man on MN FB thinks we should just get rid of the FWR section because it's outdated and obsolete... falls about laughing

Oh the shame....

It's a really odd way to behave, when they're currently on their high horse about misrepresentation of their group and whatnot. So as a response they...misrepresent a named individual?!

she really is. She's locked all of my accounts from commenting on their site, now. Free speech, and getting your facts straight, etc...

ROFL at Nadine challenging Justine to pay her some attention.

And OMG is she really going to keep up the pretence of believing that it's not an April Fool's joke.

Oh, cringe-makingly embarrassing.

It's under one of the M&S ones:

Fathers 4 Justice - The Official Campaign Organisation ‎"I even keep one in my own house. I find it very useful for the spiders." well that says it all really doesn't it - patronising, condescending, self obsessed etc.. Imagine if Matt wrote in his F4J biography "Mothers have always been welcome in F4J, I even keep one in my own house. I find it very useful for the cooking, cleaning, doing the washing, ironing, looking after the kids and having sex with." Nadine

I am very officious about the posts on this page and if anything people on this page are very retrained given what most have been through. Nadine
2 hours ago..

Fathers 4 Justice - The Official Campaign Organisation As many of you who once "liked" this page and can now only see but not "like" know to your cost i operate a no tolerance position on comments about women that I consider to be unacceptable. Many of our regulars will have noticed over the last 12 months that even some of our best and most regular contributors have disappeared from this page because of just one comment that I found unacceptable about a woman or on a gender line. These people I know personally and probably suffered from a moment of sheer frustration as we all do from time to time but suffered more from my use of the ban and delete button. Even pleadings from these people and Matt did not convince me to bring them back. Why? Well i can assure you that if any of you EVER post things along the lines of the things we have seen on Mumsnet then your life within F4J will end quicker than your 1st meeting with a Cafcass Officer and you and your comments wremoved annex, removed from our on-line forum if you have access to that, removed from our newsletter database and your details will be put on our black list because I will not let F4J be associated with such hatred, loathing and bile. We stand for equality and if you are not interested in equality for parents and your children the remove yourself from this page. Can Mumsnet Founder Justine say the same? Nadine
Yesterday at 10:51

i give up, I can't find where they're taking the april fool joke seriously.

I will have the tee-shirts ordered forthwith.

There has never been such a shining example of your grandpa's saying in the whole history of the universe Linerunner

Well, clearly so, running. There's none so desperate as those who'll grab at April straws, as me old grandpa used to say.