Are Mumsnet rules just for the little people?

re: what Custy said about different responses, I don't think it's so much a case of Royalty - it's just this: If you have spent months/years building up a rapport with a poster and you feel you 'know' them, you automatically approach anything they say (eg. an AIBU about the PILS) from the start point that they are usually sane, nice, and well-balanced. Therefore if their AIBU sounds like they are BU, you know it is out of character for them.

So you either

a) go easy on them because they must be having a bad day, and you might still say 'Yes,YABU' but you do it in a gentle jokey way, or

b) you assume that the situation must indeed be awful, and much worse than it sounds for them to be driven to such anger, and however they may have worded their OP to sound U, you find yourself wanting to agree with them and justify their stance. Because that's what friends do - they believe one another.

When it is someone you don't 'know' you just answer the question as it sounds to you Black v White, Yes v No - like it was a totally hyperthetical ethical question without a real human being attached to the end of it.

Does that make sense?

Excellent post wannabe.

Anyone who starts threads that
Contain the words 'some
Posters' or 'some groups of posters' or 'MN royalty' or are just generally vague.

I like examples before I can tell if it's true

I read somewhere on the internet recently that a study was done into internet usage, and that of all deaths announced on the internet i.e. websites and chat forums etc, only 10% were found to be genuine. So the implication was that the majority of dramatic situations posted online are in fact fictitious.

I think the idea that people should just report and move on is all very well, but in reality it's not that simple. Some of the most prolific trolls on mn had been reported numerous times before they ere actually outed on the boards, and mn were powerless to do anything, because unless there is a previous history where someone has been found to be trolling, there is actually no way of knowing whether someone really is genuine or not, other than a suspicion born out of the patern of the drama posted etc.

If you look at someone like Dizzymare, she had been reported to mn hq numerous times for weeks, and they had no evidence that she was anything other than genuine, or more to the point, they had no evidence that she wasn't. And meanwhile dizzymare's drama was unfolding on here, with her being rushed to hospital/having the babies/losing the babies/coming home/crying all over the internet and she was getting more and more and more support with people being sucked further and further in. It was IMO only a matter of time before someone started a collection... If shiny hadn't posted her suspicions on the board, saying that there were people getting a huge amount of support and mn'ers really needed to think about how genuine it was likely to be, dizzymare would probably have got a huge amount of emotional and possibly even financial support from users who themselves were vulnerable, but empathic based on the fact they believed they had shared experiences.

And before anyone says it, yes, you are entirely responsible for yourself on the internet and shouldn't give more than you can afford to lose. But when it comes down to such highly charged subjects as bereavement, people feel that shared experience and relive the pain themselves and thus feel the need to help out where they can. Because no-one who has been through the loss of a child wants to think of someone else going through what they have been through. And that personal responsibility goes both ways, so if you're going to make up a life and a load of problems and senarios and pretend to be something you're not, then you do so knowing that one day someone may call you on it.

The issue I have with people saying posters should only ever cry troll through the medium of reporting is that that essentially gives trolls a free reign on here, because if they know they can never be challenged publically they will continue to come here..

I've been here for seven years now, and I don't think I've ever seen an instance of a serious troll being outed that has turned out to actually be a genuin poster.

Kayano who is your post directed at?

Who are the in crowd?

Well give examples because this vague 'I just don't like/ get some of you' is annoying as hell.

If you are going to say something just
Bloody say it

Has something happened I've missed?

Nope, not what I said at all Reality.

Its the "hating" something done by certain MNers and then the extensive "lets" for the in crowd that I just find a bit childish.

That's also why we have quiches, surely? So that groups of friends can chat away to their hearts' content on their own thread.

I have seen some threads started by other posters become derailed on purpose by groups of "regulars" with their own agenda. Which is a slightly different point to the one I made above, admittedly.

My head is going to explode

Most of those end up as complete piss takes, anyway.

Quattrocento, then you report to MN, who remove the thread.

Simples!

Is this aimed at some people in particular?

But that's the worst part of MN for me, the posters who start a thread with "AIBU to hate MNers who XYZ"

Then a whole bunch of regulars post about how THEY like XYZ and the OP is posting "oh no YOU dahling, you're ALLOWED to XYZ" then they have a huge snogathon.

Its pathetic

The thread that just disappeared about the person who wanted to push her DP into leaving her was a case in point today.

It was quickly established that it was total fiction by reference to a parallel thread. Why should that not be pointed out? No-one actually shouted troll. No reference to bridges ...

no, it just proves that people are fed up of posting replies to people they believe are genuine, but who turn out not to be. All new posters are then treated with a certain scepticism, which is not the best way. People feel they need to protect themselves.

YY when I namechanged to ask for some help, I got treated like shit. And told I wasn't part of the gang - by people who have only been here for five minutes. Was quite eye-opening. Back when I joined in the dark ages, people were far friendlier, otherwise I wouldn't have stuck around.

Do I have to stop saying poo troll patrol?

Bugger that always makes me laugh.

Surely that proves the whole "MN Royalty" theory?