Are Mumsnet rules just for the little people?

but SO WHAT, wannabe? let the weirdo have her fantasies.
there is no way to 'discreetly' call troll...

I am running at a deletion rate of 2.5% in 2012. Cool.

hey lis have fb'd you...

agree with wannabe.

oh, and Ive just checked my deletions - 12.

mainly for calling someone a twat.

fwiw the 10% of deaths announced online stat was based on the deaths of actual op's, where someone had joined a forum claiming to be suffering from an illness/serious medical condition/disability and a family member later came on to announce their death. not that only 10% of people who claimed to be bereaved were genuine - there is a vast difference. :)

I also think that there's a vast difference between jumping on to a thread and shouting "troll!" which IMO achieves nothing other than to put peoples' back up, and to go on to a thread and discretely imply that perhaps things are not as they seem. As has been said up thread, simply reporting is not always effective because if all mn hq can act on is technical info, they are unable to do so if that info doesn't show up anything, even if the thread itself is blatantly fictitious.

I think tbh that until you have seen just how far some people will go to make stuff up online it can be hard to believe that it's really that bad iyswim. People hear about people making up the death of a child for instance, but unless you've had personal involvement with someone who has done just that it's just one of those things that happens out there on the net iyswim, not something that you see the direct effects of personally and so it can be hard to comprehend.

From my personal experience, I am horrified at the lengths people will go to. The troll I have banned elsewhere (I have told the story before, will tell it again if need but am sure people are bored of it by now) has had multiple persona's. I know that she has killed off at least three, two through suicide and one died as a result of a serious brain injury. When her first persona died, a guy I know (I've only found this out recently) who was close to her online received a necklace from her "parents" saying that she would have wanted him to have it, he'd been great support to her, etc etc. Her latest persona was killed off in January, and since then her "sister" has been posting on twitter, has befriended her online friends on there etc, her "partner" was also posting on twitter (and had been before she died, just to set the scene I suppose) and after she committed suicide he was apparently suspected of assisting her because he is a nurse. honestly the web of deceit behind this level of trollery has to be seen to be believed.

And the worst bit is, this is a real person. I know who she is, I know her real name, where she lives, (not her actual address but the town), where she works, I know people who know her in rl, she has a blog and a life and a partner (who is incidentally being chatted up first by the now dead woman, and now by the sister on twitter, and yes, this is all public so is visible to whoever wants to read it) who are either oblivious or completely unbelieving.

So actually yes. I think that calling people like that on trolling is perfectly ok. The damage they do is untold and immeasurable.

Oh, and I know I have never troll-hunted on a sensitive thread, or called troll when someone was in the middle of a "crisis". I don't do that, so I have nothing to feel guilty about

yep, I got it wrong once, and felt terrible about it. now, if its sensitive I report. if I think its someone taking the piss and there is money flying around I will post on the thread.

oh disregard the deletions thing, that's moronic. lebof just POSTS more than anyone else...

pretty well, thanks. how're your old bones?

Aitch, I may have! been smoking round the bikesheds and fondling boys. in between discussing water towers and game of thrones, that is. I have also been not clicking on threads that will raise my blood pressure! are you well?

I'm sorted!

Yeah its cause I was forbidden innit!!!

Nelson Mandela eat your heart out.

Cor. Shabba, you are one of the cool kids

FORBIDDEN

Exactly like that!!

did it say 'forbidden'? how cool.
lissie i am here Every Day Of My Life... how is it that you haven't seen me? have you been hanging about with teh naughty girls again?

worms need warmth too

Make them into scarves for any cold multi-coloured worms in the Winter????

Now that french knitting. It is pointless, non? What are you supposed to do with loads of multi-coloured woolen tubes?

Yeah Aitch - you know the saying 'Where there's a blame there's a claim' MNHQ caused me mental suffering over that weekend. I was also the butt of my RL friends jokes and laughter. They kept making me try to log in MN just to see a white screen with the words FORBIDDEN at the top of them. Some mental and emotional scars dont heal easily you know!!!