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MNHQ PLEASE! can you put all the benefits cap threads in one place? (and I never normally shout)

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Pagwatch · 24/01/2012 10:55

Because there are so many. And they are so unpleasant.

Pretty please...

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lilbitneurotic · 24/01/2012 15:41

Couldn't agree more! Please ring-fence? them. Is ring-fence correct here? I feel it should be yet it sounds not. Hmmm.

Maryz · 24/01/2012 15:36

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Sevenfold · 24/01/2012 15:02

oh dear, so that is a no then Sad

Pagwatch · 24/01/2012 14:47

I have been thinking and surely the McCann threads were in multiple sections?

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Evilclown · 24/01/2012 14:33

With respect Rebecca, they are all about the same thing.

The current benefits cap. They broadly cover the same ground. I.e people not understanding that the majority of benefit claimants do not access anywhere near enough that amount. They are full of vitriol and inverse jealousy. Occasionally a poster recounts their child commenting on the fact that poor people dare to live in London or-gasp- asks if they themselves are poor. As if one should be ashamed of that. Personally, I would not only be ashamed, but mortified if my child spat out that crap. But hey ho that is just me.

Enough is enough. Surely that amount of unpleasantness, ignorance and prejudice directed towards any other minority would not be tolerated.

KatieMiddleton · 24/01/2012 14:28

Oh how I would love to see MNHQ popping onto yet another benefit thread and posting that.

Or perhaps just "get back to work you lazy ignoramuses! There's taxes that want a payin'!" But I fear the sarcasm would be lost in the message.

Pagwatch · 24/01/2012 14:25

Oh Rebecca. Did they send you because they know I love you and would throw myself in front of hullys bullets.

I appreciate the discussion of the day thing.

Could you back it up with a polite 'why the tuck don't you find an existing thread instead of starting a new one, you shit stirrer'

Would that work?

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RebeccaMumsnet · 24/01/2012 13:53

Hi Pag,

We would love to, however, they do fit into various topics.

In the News, AIBU, Politics and _Chat. If you see any that have obviously been posted in the wrong section please do report them to us.

We have made one of the threads a Discussion of the Day, hopefully the majority will join in with this thread rather than start another one.

Hully, please don't shoot me

Pagwatch · 24/01/2012 12:50

C'mon MNHQ,
What do you say?

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KnottyLocks · 24/01/2012 12:46

'A mnetter has gone mad and is shooting people'

I had heard that.

Honeydragon · 24/01/2012 12:43

I think Pag is right and Dooin. Delete the ones sprouting like mushrooms (ffs on one of them a mnetter has gone mad and is shooting people Hmm), and do one for all and monitor it.

There are some very good and valid arguements and discussions being made by grown ups getting drowned out by the "my cousin Sharons yada yad yada....", smuggers and frothers. IF it's all in one place that it can be monitored and some of the intelligent comments might reach the twatterati that turn up n these kinds of threads.

plus I'm sick of hiding them

then un hiding them in case I'm missing something

then getting annoyed at them cluttering Active convos

cityhobgoblin · 24/01/2012 12:33

Grin at easier to shoot them . Agree KatieMiddleton that many of those posters are happy to physically corral those less fortunate . I just think it's too convenient to take a breather from the facts ( I don't mean in the sense of you *Huntycat , truly worn out by your efforts ) as if these topics don't cover every part of many people's lives .. no chat or hobby topic can distract them for more than 5 minutes ( which is perhaps all you " hide them" posters are asking for , a short rest from the bigots).

These threads are indeed useful for trolls / agents provocateurs but the the "give them enough rope" argument may apply

Not sure there's a solution the miseries of alienation ... once you see reality there isn't going to be much rest & it's a lifelong fight < most pretentious post ever on MN >< needs new category for self- shooting lefties >

Hullygully · 24/01/2012 12:04

so it's easier to shoot them

Pagwatch · 24/01/2012 12:02

Yes bossy
That is the point. You are quite right.

I just want them all in one place

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Bossybritches22 · 24/01/2012 12:00

Personally my response to Pags was on a groan at the duplication, not the CONTENT of said threads so please don't turn this one into a nother battleground!

As KM said polite & tidy Grin

PinotMN · 24/01/2012 11:58

I read a bit of one. I haven't posted.

But I am a bit shocked at the names pf posters being such arseholes on them.

HarrietJones · 24/01/2012 11:56

I'm in the unsatisfied lefty corner (although 6 hot cross buns may sate my hunger)

Can we please tidy up the benefits threads ? Do we have a benefit bashing topic?

Chubfuddler · 24/01/2012 11:56

No I'm really not. Those threads are all entirely predictable, I'd rather not read them. A few I have inadvertently opened because they are in chat or Aibu and the mn app cuts thread titles very short so it isn't always clear what threads are about.

There's a lot of unpleasantness on mn on this subject and it's really not just in one direction.

KnottyLocks · 24/01/2012 11:55

Ah, BigMouthBugle... Grin

TeWihara · 24/01/2012 11:53

chub I believe the implication was actually that those who can't be sympathetic to those very real people in difficult situations who will be affected by the cap as lacking in humanity.

Pagwatch · 24/01/2012 11:52

Actually what I responded to was your rather sneering 'self satisfied leftie' comment.
As you had come on to my thread which is about some of the vile comments about people on benefits, and suggested that objecting to such vileness = lefty I was simply more accurately articulating the type of person who I wish to avoid. If objecting to vile shit being thrown at people on benefits = lefty then lefty = person with a smudge of humanity

You then equated the opposite of that to be 'conservative voter.

So i think what happened was that you posted 'i am not interested in a bun fight' but in a way that made me think you probably are

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PinotMN · 24/01/2012 11:52

I haven't seen them.

I'm in a grouchy mood so I shall search them out and unleash my inner bitch

MmeLindor. · 24/01/2012 11:51

Not politically satisfied, but I have just had a rather yummy homemade pizza.

Better add smug to that description.

MmeLindor. · 24/01/2012 11:50

Yes, agree.

Like Te, I don't mind discussing the cuts and pointing out discrepancies, but I do have the feeling that 80% of those reading have made up their minds without even reading a single article about the cap (the DM does not count).

Could we make it a provision that anyone who posts on these threads has to agree to read a wide range of papers and blogs, and answer questions on the actual ins and outs of the proposed changes.

KatieMiddleton · 24/01/2012 11:47

Am I on the same thread as everyone else or is there some creative reading going on here?