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MNHQ PLEASE! can you put all the benefits cap threads in one place? (and I never normally shout)

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Pagwatch · 24/01/2012 10:55

Because there are so many. And they are so unpleasant.

Pretty please...

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CalatalieSisters · 27/01/2012 17:33

What an odd thread. I haven't clicked on any of the benefits cap threads because I can anticipate the sputum that might be posted there. But it is a very strange request that, over and above the rules about no personal attacks and "making parents' live easier" there ought to be a specific corralling of Tory bullshit about benefits. It looks like people identifying so much with MN that they want their Active Conversations list to reflect their politics. You can do that on Twitter you know, sculpt your timeline to express your personality. It is an odd thing to ask of MN.

HelenMumsnet · 27/01/2012 17:26

@Hullygully

Yy, surely they belong in politics?

We'd be more than happy to move threads to Politics or even In the News. Do report ones that might have strayed...

FoofFighter · 27/01/2012 17:23

It would feel odd to us to insist that those on one side of that argument had to stick to one thread when we have always adopted a politically neutral position - we are for all mums not just mums of the left or right.

We aren't asking for one thread, but for a topic.

You already have a Legal and Money board that would easily encompass Benefits.

You have topics on every other thing which could broadly be just put under parenting but you felt the need to seperate it into toddler, babies, step children, adopted children etc so really what is the difference here?

Sad
FoofFighter · 27/01/2012 17:19

I would class myself as right wing ffs so no I totally do not accept that MNHQ.

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 17:17

if we can have a topic for the royal wedding and other random stuff, why not for benefit bashing.

TeWihara · 27/01/2012 17:16

I don't personally feel this is a left/right issue.

Obviously left wing people are more likely to be against it from the start, but having looked into it quite a few right wing people have agreed it is a horrendous piece of legislation that leaves ALL families in the south east incredibly vulnerable.

I'm actually quietly surprised that HQ has been doing work about it themselves, as prior to the House of Lords amendments there was just no protection for anyone at all, even if you've worked full time since you were 16... even now with child benefit excluded (if that isn't overturned) it's still not great.

KatieMiddleton · 27/01/2012 17:14

Political debate? So let's move them all to politics, no? There have been occasions when half of active convos is full of this stuff. I have AIBU hidden so it may be even worse than that.

Can we have an indication in the thread titles that there is going to be benefit discussion please? Then I can just hide straight from active convos.

Pagwatch · 27/01/2012 17:14

I can understand all of that and I accept what you say.

But fwiw and from where I am sitting I think the resentment and upset that is being created is damaging.

I think it is truly dividing the board in a way I have not seen before and I have been here years. Well, perhaps with the exception of the mcann situation which is possibly why I reached for that as a comparison.

It is awful. Just awful. And really hard to watch.

I haven't really become involved but the fallout is contaminating so many areas of the board. It is just sad.

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Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 17:14

ffs so accusing someone of making up their disability isn't personal.
also the constant DLA is more than waring it is downright obscene

Hullygully · 27/01/2012 17:13

Yy, surely they belong in politics?

Maryz · 27/01/2012 17:12

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FoofFighter · 27/01/2012 17:11

shitty excuse imo.

Hullygully · 27/01/2012 17:10

ideological

JustineMumsnet · 27/01/2012 17:03

Hello,
We can see where you're coming from, we know it's wearing, particularly if you feel you are part of a group that is under attack but as a rule we don't interfere in the boards for situations like this.

Here's why:
We do allow debate here, and that includes contrary, insensitive and sometimes downright unpleasant opinions. Many of the threads about benefits and cuts merely reflect an ideological discourse that is right at the heart of the political debate in this country right now about the size of the state. It would feel odd to us to insist that those on one side of that argument had to stick to one thread when we have always adopted a politically neutral position - we are for all mums not just mums of the left or right.

Madeleine McCann was a bit of a one off (hopefully) for a few reasons - it spawned many more threads than usual, taking up almost half of active conversations at one point, it went on for eons (literally months and months) and it was so intensely personal about one particular family.

I know this is not the answer many of you want to hear but obviously there is the option to hide a thread on active conversations and we will, of course delete any posts that go beyond debate about government spending and into disablist territory. We will also ban anyone who is obviously only here to try to inflame - please do report any instances you see.

SinicalSanta · 27/01/2012 16:27

lMaybe it's better off this way - they can sate themselves here rather than spilling venom all over RL.
a sort of public service is being performed

TheHumancatapult · 27/01/2012 16:23

yep foof especially as people are scared and confused about UC and ~PIP etc

TheHumancatapult · 27/01/2012 16:22

foof

Im fine thank you DId find it funny as they had obivously did a search on my name to know when and where i ahd posted but failed to read the orgianl threads

FoofFighter · 27/01/2012 16:20

It's a huge shame Sad

There must be lots of Mumsnetters who could do with advice on these matters.

KatieMiddleton · 27/01/2012 16:19

MNHQ could move the threads into the new topic.

The email I got was on Wednesday night at 18:34. It says:

Hi there,

Thanks for reporting; we're having a look at the various threads now and will have a think.

Best wishes,

Rowan
MNHQ

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If they don't get this sorted today things may just implode over the weekend when there are less people around.

Maryz · 27/01/2012 16:16

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Hullygully · 27/01/2012 16:16

yy One topic, put them all in there.

KatieMiddleton · 27/01/2012 16:14

Yes. I agree with Shirley.

ShirleyO · 27/01/2012 16:13

Foof - I think that is a bit naive in all honesty - the appetite for spite is too high ATM, I don't think those who are rabid would be able to resist posting awfulness on every single thread in such a topic.

Sadly.

Maryz · 27/01/2012 16:12

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LanceCorporalBoiledEgg · 27/01/2012 16:11

I agree Pagwatch.

Feel like staying away from here till it's sorted TBH