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Bloggers Specials this week

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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 06/01/2012 13:52

Hi MNHQ,

I wonder if you could tell me the reason behind endorsing/promoting a blog regarding a wife who believes her husband, a convicted rapist, is innocent. I was quite shocked to find it in the weekly parenting news e-mail.

There are a lot of women on MN who have been victims of rape and whose attackers will never be brought to justice. It is incredibly hard to get a rape conviction due to all the rape myths, one of which is women lie and the man didn't do it. I feel it is insulting to the victims of rape and could be triggering.

A couple of months ago you were asked to support a campaign to help dispel rape mytha which you looked on favourably here but endorsing this blog seems to fly in the face of that.

Thanks

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HelenMumsnet · 06/01/2012 22:00

@LRDtheFeministDragon

Sorry, the more I think about it the more this upsets me:

Surely, especially when lots of women on here have talked about their rapes and when MNHQ has previously been supportive of campaigns for rape victims, whether or not rape victims should be supported or traumatized should not be a 'detail'.

That was crass.

Just to be clear, LRD, I was talking about the details of the Bloggers team's daily work, not the details of this blog. Wouldn't want you to misconstrue.

StewieGriffinsMom · 06/01/2012 21:58

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 06/01/2012 21:57

Sorry, the more I think about it the more this upsets me:

Surely, especially when lots of women on here have talked about their rapes and when MNHQ has previously been supportive of campaigns for rape victims, whether or not rape victims should be supported or traumatized should not be a 'detail'.

That was crass.

IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 21:52

X-posted. I am slow tonight

ShirleyKnottage · 06/01/2012 21:51

I'm part of the bloggers network (for now) and there are a separate team who deal with the blogging community. Which BTW is freaking MASSIVE now.

Literally hundreds and hundreds of blogs are part of the MN network and so why this particular blog (which has very few posts - which strikes me as weird, when I joined the network i was told I'd need to be posting regularly) has been featured is BEYOND me to be honest. Apart from the fact that it wasn't actually read by a team member at all - and the blog was chosen purely for it's name?

Surely once someone had read all the posts, and let's face it there aren't many, they would have come to the conclusion that this really isn't quite the blog to be featured as 'blog of the week'?

LeBOF · 06/01/2012 21:50

Yes- short of them recommending a YouTube mash-up of Eva Braun singing I Know Him So Well, I can't think of a more inappropriate thing they could have linked mumsnet to.

IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 21:50

Thanks Helen Smile

Re the blogger team I got the impression from both posts from MNHQ that the blogging bit is MNHQ but a different team to the talk boards.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 06/01/2012 21:50

I see Helen. I think.

Do you have any idea how someone who's employed at HQ could think this was acceptable? It seems totally against the ethos of MN to me. I mean, it's not exactly 'details', is it? IMO.

HelenMumsnet · 06/01/2012 21:46

@LRDtheFeministDragon

Thanks Helen. Can we ask again who the bloggers team are? Like whoever else said it, I had no idea they weren't you.

Well, they are us. But we are more than just me, obviously!

Our Bloggers team are based at MNHQ and we do talk to them and share biscuits and things - but they concentrate on Bloggers stuff and we concentrate on Talk stuff, and it's not always possible for us to know all the details of every single thing they're doing - or indeed for them to know all the details of every single thing we're doing.

AnyFucker · 06/01/2012 21:45

helen, thank you

Prolesworth · 06/01/2012 21:44

If the bloggers network isn't being run by MNHQ that's a bit surprising (to me, anyway). I think most people would assume that MNHQ is in charge of the bloggers network. I'd say that MNHQ need to take a look at who is making such disastrous decisions (and writing such terrible copy) in their name. It only takes seconds to find the details of this case online - why did no-one check it?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 06/01/2012 21:41

Thanks Helen. Can we ask again who the bloggers team are? Like whoever else said it, I had no idea they weren't you.

HelenMumsnet · 06/01/2012 21:37

Evening. Thanks for your further comments.

There's no one here from the Bloggers team right now, so I'm afraid I can't answer your detailed questions about how the blog was selected - other than refer you back to our earlier post on this thread.

As for the way the blog was promoted, we have already apologised for that. And I can only do so again. Our wording in the Bloggers Network News email was poorly chosen, and our wording in the Parenting News email was particularly crass - but definitely a case of unfortunate editing by someone who hadn't read the blog, rather than a deliberate decision to call her situation "inspiring" (ie cock-up, not conspiracy). We are all, truly, very embarrassed about this - and very sorry.

We'll pass your comments about the blog selection on to the Bloggers team and come back to you as soon as we can. Please bear with us till then.

IslaDoit · 06/01/2012 21:30

I've reported this thread again.

I think because the title is about blogging it's not getting as much traffic as it might otherwise. I suspect that's why MNHQ aren't prioritising it. It's Friday night and this thread is relatively civilised so far.

thunderboltsandlightning · 06/01/2012 21:24

I have to say I think the Bloggers Network response was somewhat disingenuous. They're saying that they don't select bloggers based on their private lives, but this blog was obviously featured because of what is happening in the blogger's private life and it was advertised as such, including the mention of the rape conviction.

Given her blogging name, it's also difficult for them to argue that the focus isn't around her husband's guilt or innocence.

Finally Mumsnet Bloggers, whoever you might be, if you read this blog properly, this is a very disturbing story, for the blogger herself. His DNA was found for the rape because he committed an assault on her. This is a violent dangerous man. Whether you meant to or not, you've endorsed her belief that he isn't, and that is worrying.

AnyFucker · 06/01/2012 21:23

Thanks hand bof and the rest, for articulating all I wanted to say

Prolesworth · 06/01/2012 21:05

Come on MNHQ, please can you tell us who is on the bloggers team who decided to make this blog of the week and wrote the terrible blurb on the specials page? There's no indication on the bloggers' network site as to who is running it. I assumed it was MNHQ.

AmoryCohetes · 06/01/2012 20:56

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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 06/01/2012 20:46

I hope you are OK Amor. LeBof has summed up my discomfort. I am really quite angry and disappointed by the response from the bloggers team. It is lacking in empathy and understanding of how rape victims would feel about this.

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ShirleyKnottage · 06/01/2012 20:38

Totally agree with LeBof.

This is shockingly awful!

If we as members can find out the ins and outs of this awful awful case in a matter of clicks then surely the bloggers team should be carrying out the same sort of checks FFS?

God I'm bored with fucking moaning about stupid shit like this round here lately. Hmm coming a week after the dreadful decision to allow some anti choice statements to stand on a thread where opinion was NOT sought only support just makes me wonder. Again.

AmoryCohetes · 06/01/2012 20:27

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RillaBlythe · 06/01/2012 20:19

Absolutely, LeBof.

ChristinedePizan · 06/01/2012 20:19

BOF's post hits the nail on the head. There is nothing inspirational about a woman who stands by a convicted rapist and I cannot believe MNHQ believe that. There are plenty of single mums and plenty of women whose husbands are in prison - I'm sure I could find you any number of blogs describing what it's like.

The only person who is inspirational in any of this is the woman who had the guts to stand in the courtroom and face her assailant.

LeBOF · 06/01/2012 20:17

I'm curious who comprises the blogging team and whether they realise how spectacularly tasteless their journo-style 'hook' is "This week we're glued to the blog 'A Convict's Wife' by Izzy Gil-Tee", when a cursory google throws up the most distressing accounts of a truly monstrous crime.

Jesus, its like a Private Eye spoof of how crass the Press are. It trivialises something so horrific that I'm embarrassed to be associated with this as a poster here.

Victorialucas · 06/01/2012 19:49

I'm not satisfied with MNHQ's promotion or response to this either.