DBF BANNING THREAD: 3

Like that biwi.

I hardly ever find anything offensive. Just think the poster is an arse.

Yes, but the posters concerned can then say "well, I meant it in a jokey context" and the other/s can say "no, you were attacking me".

Bit like tit for tat ?

If that's the case, rather than just deleting a post, maybe HQ should mail the poster and say, "in what context did you mean that ?"

Fuck off ha ha, or fuck off horrible ?

I am over-thinking this, I know I am.

I'm also very predictable

Fuck off Hully

You're so touchy, biwi

Itsonlyme Which is why every reported post would really be best taken in context surely?

well, maybe the policy on deletion should change, mj, and all posts be left to stand (which is what I would prefer anyway)

biwi - well, yes, if I told you to fuck off I would expect you to take it personally. as in addressed to you, showing my anger at what you siad, etc. but it's not, imo a personal attack.

The trouble is, silver I think, that while "fuck off" is water off a ducks back to some people, in certain circumstances, it can be very offensive/upsetting to others.

And you will always gets people who do get offended for the sake of it, and who report for the sake of it.

All I can say is that if you told me to 'fuck off', then I would take it personally.

because it is not attcking anything about the poster in a personal way, BIWI.

it is not naice, for sure, and may even be said in anger. but it is not an attack, imo.

but i appreciate that people see these things differently, which is why I (also on last thread) asked for clarification form MNHQ as to what exactly their boundaries on personal attacks are.

I don't like being put into a position where I have to complain bitterly in a 'but miss, she said....!' kind of way - if a post is reported, and deemed worthy of deletion, then the background should be looked into, and other associated posts deleted also (if necessary)

See, I naively (?) assumed that HQ did read a whole thread, if a post was reported.

Maybe there should be an added extra on the tops of each thread, so we can report the whole thread, not just a post ?

Or have I missed that bit ?

I don't report anything either. I only did once and that was out of anger and spite. And to prove a point. Not a good thing.

I never report anything. I think provocative idiots should be seen to be such :)

silverfrog - how is telling someone to 'fuck off' not a personal attack?!

I do agree with you, though, that MNHQ have been guilty of deleting posts without reading the whole thread properly, so that they don't always get the whole context or reason why someone might respond in a particular way.

Similar thing happened to me - someone making horribly homophobic comments (my oldest son is gay), and so I exploded in rage at them and said something probably along the lines of 'fuck off' . My post was deleted but theirs was allowed to stand. Until I complained bitterly, and then their post was finally deleted.

Hully said THE NAME!!!!!!

I think MNHQ are consistent.

1. A personal attack is drawn to their attention by one or many
2. A warning is given
3. It persists
4. A warning of a ban is given
5. It persists
6. Warning is carried through.

OMG I am Gina Ford.

The key point is that whether or not you think 5 was justified and whatever it consisted of is irrelevant

Fluffy, someone said that ex-Mumsnetters had started a forum because they were pissed off with MN and that they were slagging off MN and possibly other mumsnetters. Actually now that I have seen it (cheers DBF for the mention on your site) although it slags off Mumsnet it doesn't slag off any mumsnetters and that was all I was bothered about.

We've been down these other forums roads before and it never seems to end well, so I can only ask those involved not to take out frustrations on particular posters - so long as that doesn't happen then there's plenty of room for everyone!

You know, I google anti-mumsnet forum and came up with LOADS of blogs and so on that are very much anti-MN. No wonder I couldn't find this one!

I agree with fluffystabby, I looke dthe other day and there was no bitching. I'm sure MNHQ don't give a stuff.