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dear mn hq, please could something be done about the anti sn posts on mn

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2shoes · 10/09/2011 23:45

as I know you are aware(I have the emails) people from the sn community have left this week, due to the vile things that have been said to the/or about SN.
isn't it time that mn hq took some steps to eradicate this, as you do with trolls? surely disablist/anti sn/ personal attacks should be deleted and something done about the posters.
or do we just keep loosing well informed, SN educated people from mn.
(no I can't link to a thread as there has been too many)

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MmeLindor. · 11/09/2011 18:18

There is never going to be complete equality on thread or post deletions. For the simple reason that different MHHQers will have different tolerance levels.

Which is why it is important to have a general policy.

If nr is deemed racially offensive, then r*d should be deemed equally offensive.

I reported a poster with the name R***Rus but since heard that the poster was still posting. That is not on.

MNHQ need to work with some of the posters on the SN board and agree to some guidelines. Which words are offensive. What comments will not be tolerated. When posts should be deleted, when they should be left to stand but a warning given, both on the thread, and in an email to the poster.

Feenie · 11/09/2011 18:10

And let's not forget last weekend when (I think it was spiderpig who said it) disabled people were told if we can't queue up like normal people then we shouldn't go out.

That's very interesting - it was spiderpig8 who started the thread about the behaviour of an SEN child which ruined her family's visit to the cinema - it ended up being deleted. Some nice repetition of very questionable views there, then - although I did not actually see the second thread in question.

RustyBear · 11/09/2011 17:58

Most of kidzrfreaky's posts and many of LOTM's have now gone.

AliceWyrld · 11/09/2011 17:56

Totally agree with Stewie. There seems to be a necessary condition for MNHQ that a troll is someone who is not being themselves, which I have never seen as a requirement for a troll anywhere else. The stir up controversy bit, for sure, but the not being yourself thing is so weird for an internet forum. Surely we're all not being ourselves, is SGM really Stewie Griffin's Mom? My name isn't Alice.

As an aside, am really sorry to hear about the SN shit that's been going on. I've not been around much to see it, but what I've read here is appalling. Just wanted to acknowledge that.

EverythingInMiniature · 11/09/2011 17:51

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doublestandard · 11/09/2011 17:21

Also agree with Stewie

MmeLindor. · 11/09/2011 17:20

I am posting on several threads at the moment, about similar topics. I did wonder how many posts were reported to MNHQ a day.

If we knew that roughly 300 posts (just snatched that figure out of clean air) were being reported, then it would be more acceptable and understandable that sometimes posts were deleted when they shouldn't have been, and viceversa.

That is a lot of reading for MNHQ to do, if they have to scroll up and down the thread to see when the first bun was thrown.

4madboys · 11/09/2011 17:09

another like for stewies post! :)

mnhq have changed my thread title so it is now more clear what the thread is about :) am slightly wary that this will actually maybe bring out the trolls..?

Empjusa · 11/09/2011 17:06

"I find it incredibly offensive that a generalised comment about a specific group of people is deemed "inoffensive" simply because no individual was named. That isn't how insults work and its disingenuous to state otherwise."

Yes, that.

StewieGriffinsMom · 11/09/2011 17:06

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Peachy · 11/09/2011 17:04
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4madboys · 11/09/2011 16:58

thankyou helen :)

HelenMumsnet · 11/09/2011 16:49

@4madboys

btw, other than on here, has anyone heard back from mnhq today? i have reported several posts, (including one of my own, to get it edited) and i havent heard anything? i am guessing because its a sunday.

Hello. Sorry to hear you haven't hear back from us yet, 4madboys. We're sure you'll be hearing soon - reckon there might be a bit of a backlog!

Peachy · 11/09/2011 16:43

nothing here eitehr from MNHQ

2shoes taking a break

4madboys · 11/09/2011 16:37

btw, other than on here, has anyone heard back from mnhq today? i have reported several posts, (including one of my own, to get it edited) and i havent heard anything? i am guessing because its a sunday.

4madboys · 11/09/2011 16:28

"yes the troll attack on me is still there.
also although I started this thread mn hq have not once spoken to me...
they have deleted posts from people like Noddyholder who were only defending/supporting the sn community, yet left the troll posts there.
bye"

that post makes me think she has left? i could be wrong, but its how it read to me :(

and you are right tethersend, but god it makes for depressing reading and its like banging your head against a brick wall in trying to argue/reason with someone like that.

Peachy · 11/09/2011 16:25

2shoes? Oh goodness np Sad she's always been such a good friend

tethersend · 11/09/2011 16:23

To be fair, nothing could make LOTM look more ridiculous at the moment than her own posts on that thread.

herbietea · 11/09/2011 16:20

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4madboys · 11/09/2011 16:19

the crap on glitters thread is ongoing lotm is as usual spouting utter shite, she really has no idea Angry

am i to understand that 2shoes has also now left :(

doublestandard · 11/09/2011 16:09

Shit this is grim reading Sad

Is it possible, that there is someone new at the towers who has a slightly different interpretation of the guidelines to everyone else? Certainly tethers email and one I have received about posts left to stand after deletion seemed a little off..?? Not saying that is the case, but could be a possibility.

I admit I'd like a simple cause like that that can be easily rectified because I'm really struggling with some of the decisions made recently if not.

Peachy · 11/09/2011 16:02

I think that might be an issue: definition of troll. I would go with Emp's definition tbh as well.

I did mention on the otehr thread that this is not new; many will recall when MB and OH had to leave after widows were tagetted by some trolling. I suspect feminism is creepoing up as the new Snboard-to-troll.

Is it cyclical?

usualsuspect · 11/09/2011 15:55

Trolling is also someone posting deliberately to get a rise out of posters

and thats what at least one poster on Glitters thread was doing

Empjusa · 11/09/2011 15:53

"someone who poses as someone else"

So, not just someone being themselves and posting to stir up trouble?