dear mn hq, please could something be done about the anti sn posts on mn

Thanks for replying Helen.

I agree with Peachy though - I think some of the nastiest ones are people who say a few revoltingly nasty things mixed with a lot of 'concern troll' posts. Is there anything that can be done about that?

Is there a way to let us know better what is happening with the process from reports and deletions through to banning? I realize you'll want to keep quite about a lot of things until you're sure, but it can feel very demoralizing when someone is persistently posting offensively. Is it possible for us to ask in some situations that you look at a poster's history, not just the individual thread?

I thnk the problem Helen and it might always be is that certain posters are very skilled at flying just below your radar fro deletion / banning. I am sure you are aware of these by name as am I- although of course I only see the snapshots on threads I can see (actually quite a restricted number, though that most active threads box on the side undoes all my good work and drags me in).

TBH OI think 37 repeated snides at claimants equates to at least one fuck off you dirty state stealing bastard, but have no idea how you police that.

'I find it incredibly offensive that a generalised comment about a specific group of people is deemed "inoffensive" simply because no individual was named. That isn't how insults work and its disingenuous to state otherwise.'

This.

People who get their kicks by mocking and winding up people with special needs or their parents and carers should be warned, then banned. Not just deleted every time they trot out the same offensive rubbish.

Didn;t see that herbiw how awful.

But tis week I sat as someone not knowing me mouthed off that NT kids need TAs more than Sn kids as they had equal needs (er what part of SN / An are you not getting?) and was told that disabled people were disabled as God valued them less and created a hierarchy (really? not my understanding but what would I know, I only have an honours degree in world religion ).

However what be nice would be if that was not an actual mass increase (I am sure it has risen somewhat due to press crap having spotted easy targets to blame economy on, and indeed ex soldier (older) friend who can barely walk and uses a chair hasn't had DLA for 6 months after a malicious report, ATOS check last week refused to accept army reports and just gave him grief for ages before making him climb painfully in and out of bed, checking his stick for dust and interrogating hhim about an old viagra prescription- the man has a bullet wound through his hips and severe PTSD ffs, sorry rant over )..........but a increased awareness of it being a crime, with hopefully more action being taken.

Good on you both, Peachy and I wish you every success (and best wishes to your DCs)

LL please don't. Let ehr go. It's for her own good.

Rufus good point, Before ds1 was diagnosed I was a manager at a charity, DH a transport manager. At teh time money felt tigt but looking back we were roling in it . It was dh's redundancy once I was a carer that shoved us off the deep end but we are emerging with one (maybe 2) businesses, Dh alsmot ahs his degree, me my MA and a sense that if we go down it wasn't for the want of fighting.

It's amazing how easily life can throw you a curve ball: the test is what you do with that.

Sorry, K999, I got caught up throwing chips at old ladies at the bus stop, then I was sick on myself. You know how it is.

Repeats to self - must stop engaging with LOTM, mus stop engaging with LOTM.

Tethers, where the hell were you? I was waiting at the bandstand at 7.......

Helen, thanks for the email- and for the apology.

And the fridge

personally I think LOTM is turning into a caricature of herself.

I got as far as lotm's comment about Glitter's pet. Evidently this person is well-heeled and thinks she is immune to disaster. Nobody is so immune; I lost all I had worked for through no fault of my own. I am lucky I salvaged something from the wreck and don't have to claim benefits.

Maybe a dose of adversity, sharply administered, might do her good.

She made me so furious I wanted to fill her Hunter wellies with cowshit.

I support Lenin's suggestion on another thread to have a hide poster facility. I have made a complete 180 on this but I'd rather have that then the deletions and seeing the bigotted bollocks that is permitted on some threads.

I've just seen this thread. It puts my whinging about suddenly having posts deleted into context. I am so sorry that those who are leaving have been targeted. Fanjo, I've long admired you - we had a misunderstanding recently and I'm very sorry about it.

I agree that lots of people don't flame the idiots who post disabilist comments, because they are worried about causing more offense (as I stupidly did). As I type this I wonder if the word "idiot" is wrong, if it is, I hope this post is deleted quickly.

Lots of people who post here don't have English as a first language, it can be difficult to understand which words are offensive and which are not. That doesn't mean that the words should be left, but I think it is part of the reason that they keep being used.

But none of that has anything to do with the trolling discussed in this thread. That is just nasty and it's inexcusable. Peachy posted above i've recently been told that god gave Sn people a lower status and that too much input is therefore ungodly There are a lot of people who imagine that success in life is an indication of inherent worth. They don't tend to cope well with adversity.

Will do, 4madboys

Glad HQ seem finally to be waking up to this.

Stewie's right, prejudice and discrimination isn't limited to insults directed at one person. Otherwise nr would be fine as long as you didn't call an individual poster a nr.

mme could you repost that on my thread? where we have put some ideas as to what we want mnhq to do? or even email it to them.

or i could c&p it onto the thread, if you dont mind? :)

glitter, you know i am sorry you feel that way :( and you know where i am xxx

c&p from AIBU

I am going to make one single post on this.

People are spectacularly failing to see the point, and indeed twisting things (as in Lyingwitch's post).

I started a thread that bore absolutely no relation to my private life. The only vague association was that I have to claim benefits out of necessity. There has ensued fifteen odd pages of benefit bashing, including disgusting flaming of me for the way I live my life. I've been called lazy, entitled and scrounging, and that I have made bad lifestyle choices (if giving birth to three children with additional needs is a lifestyle choice then whatever).

I actually really enjoy a good debate too. I think there is mileage in discussing the current government spin on making deductions from benefits for rioting or truanting (my family does neither incidentally so why I should be referring to my family in my posting I do not know) and how that insinuates that both issues are created solely from people on benefits. I was really up for a debate ABOUT THE ISSUE I POSTED.

I didn't get that though. I got personal attacks and trollery instead. Over the course of the evening I contacted MNHQ no fewer than four times asking for their help. I didn't get a response until many hours later, and when it came the response was that nothing offensive had been posted and there had been no trolling.

On consideration I decided that it was simply the latest in a long line of MNHQ ignoring this specific type of trolling, and that I wasn't going to accept it any more. I have chosen to stop posting as I now believe that I'm never going to be able to start any kind of thread on here about any topic without the sn trolls crawling all over it. I believe fanjo feels the same way for the same reasons although I can't speak for her in that obviously. I am still reading. I believe any further posts from me will simply stick myself back in the firing line - hell I could start a thread about paint drying and some arsehole would end up telling me I was entitled and a scrounger purely because of who I am - and I'm not doing that any more.

It's not a flounce, I just fail to see why I cannot engage in debate that has nothing to do with my personal life without trolls getting stuck in. Hence the other thread I posted. So, if I'm not going to be allowed to post on a variety of topics then what is the point in posting at all? I'm certainly not attention seeking, I could well do without some of the sn troll attention.