dear mn hq, please could something be done about the anti sn posts on mn

Yes to be fair there have been some comments but I think, in the main, it's people saying it's hard to know what's ok and what isn't and that some people are over-sensitive.

I've been called a hypocrite (off board today) for pulling someone up on using a disablist term because I admitted I had used it until educated otherwise. Now a sensitive poster might interpret that as more general ignorance and defence of disablist words. I suspect it's probably just a defensive reaction to being queried on something that they thought was perfectly ok so I've shrugged it off. But I don't have a disabled child or disability so I have not been worn down by the continuous hurtful comments.

What I am clumsily trying to say, is that there are people with no SN association, who can see things are wrong. I've already tried to make more of an effort. I've PM'd a poster when I saw an offensive term naievely used instead of just clicking report or ignoring. I've asked a poster to remember their manners when ranting and shouting at other posters (well caps lock but you get the gist).

I have also been posting as doublestandard recently after being pissed off about an inconsistent deleting decision but I'm happy to tell you my usual posting name if PM'd because I am not a bully and I try to behave properly on the board. I don't always get it right but I try.

The AIBU thread... I posted there but it was to say I used that word but thought it came from 2 other words...

I won't use it anymore but some people - myself included are being educated on this matter and won't use the words any more. So its not just a chat about how the word it ok...

Just read this thread and am saddened that people can treat people with sn or parents of kids with sn so awfully. My sadly departed mum was a clinical psychologist who worked with adults with learning difficulties. She worked tirelessly for 30 odd years to help her service users and instilled in me an understanding of how to treat people properly no matter who they are. When she died 40 or of her clients and their familiesorganised a memorial for her. The best thing she has left with me is an understanding of peoples basic rights and to never casually discriminate against people. She would be appalled at some posters on MN.

No, plenty disagreeing (or is it me? it's always me isn;t it? Sigh. (and a few otehrs; but it's a small group isn't it?)

I love that "That's all I have to say, I'm putting you on ignore" bloody brilliant! Can you imagine the uproar on here if we had messages like that?

"I find your language entirely inappropriate so I'm fucking telling"

'IME, as a moderator on a large forum, it does cut down on bickering. Instead of derailing threads with a lengthy tit-for-tat squabble, people write something along the lines of "that's all I have to say, I'm putting you on ignore".

' i do that with hide thread anyway lmao

Spot on about AIBU custy

i think the aibu culture has permeated the whole of mn

its hard to go anytwhee without a pasting tbh.

i think i;m getting old becuase i'm tired of being pasted

I take your points about AIBU not being a fight club. Perhaps it's difficult to know where to draw the line between 'provocation' and 'verbal assault'. It probably varies by individual. The posters being reviled here clearly are aiming to offend. Nonetheless, their opinions drew very worthwhile replies so they served as useful provocation, in context.

I never go on SN boards and would still be blissfully ignorant of most pressing issues you face, were it not for threads like these.

It's always useful to draw a RL comparison, I agree. If the ranting of the pub bigot annoys you, you can't just hide the bigot can you? You either have a go at them (reply) or move out of earshot (hide the thread).

I thought WannaBe made a very good argument about MNHQ hypocrisy inconsistent policy wrt deletions & bans.

I wouldn't use hide poster for truly offensive posts - I'd report them to MNHQ.

IME, as a moderator on a large forum, it does cut down on bickering. Instead of derailing threads with a lengthy tit-for-tat squabble, people write something along the lines of "that's all I have to say, I'm putting you on ignore".

People who just rub you up the wrong way
by not engaging in arguments and just cutting and pasting crap that supports their own POV
can simply be hidden.

I wouldn't want the people I have in mind to be moderated in any way, I'd just rather not see their tedious posts

Not for me wannaBe, I'd use hide the poster simply to hide people who get right on my breasticles.

There's not many, only one or two but they are out there! And I'm sure the same can be said about me.

and yes, hide poster option would be used as a means to not deal with the issue, I can almost write the response "we like to encourage free speech, obviously if this upsets you we have the hide poster option..."

I think that ibu has a lot to answer for and does not show mn in a good light at all.

On a site that is frequented by supposedly grown women I think it is shocking that there are sections where the onus is basically on the poster to not post in certain sections of the site if they don't want a pasting.

Ibu is seen as a free-for-all where posters are basically given permission to post what they like and if the op doesn't like it then they shouldn't have posted there... would you tell your kids not to go and play with the nasty bullies if they didn't want to be beaten up, and if they were beaten up then they shouldn't have been playing with those kids in the first place? no? then how is this diffeent exactly?

Mouseface I know, currently talking to his Base about that as it caused a massive meltdown on saturday; they say most chidlren they get feel that way. Maybe he'd be less hitty etc if society could accept his little noises (even I draw he line at his sonic boom, hurts your ears!)?

that comment is unfortunatly on my thread and i have just responded.

as for staying away from aibu? seriously, i cant believe someone would even think that was an answer!

ime the ignore poster function does work on other sites, again its down to personal preference tho, i am too nosy but it could work for some :)

Peachy - that's awful that DS1 feels that way. So he has to 'pretend' to be NT because of feeling pressurised.

"Having a son with serious mental health problems, of course I feel tremendous empathy for people with special needs. The trouble is the definition of SN and the people who make the diagnosis.
In my experience, there are far too many people being wrongly "labelled" by inexperienced so-called professionals, when really all they need is a bit of parental discipline and a kick up the jacksy!"

What the actual fuck? What a thing to post!

I missed that.

But you know, unless they post me some research backing up thier opinion I am far less likely to accept their opinion of what is an incorrect dx than that of a qualified diagnostician.

In my own field I see far more undiagnosed children, some actively denied a dx by SENCOs etc unwilling to refer, than wrongly dx'd children- not that it is even vaguely possible to know if a dx is wrong or not in a single meeting or even run of them; ds1's asd is well documented but it takes 6 weeks or so of contact with someone (eg a new teacher) before he releases hoimself from the pressure to appear nt.

Indeed 2shoes, indeed.