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dear mn hq, please could something be done about the anti sn posts on mn

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2shoes · 10/09/2011 23:45

as I know you are aware(I have the emails) people from the sn community have left this week, due to the vile things that have been said to the/or about SN.
isn't it time that mn hq took some steps to eradicate this, as you do with trolls? surely disablist/anti sn/ personal attacks should be deleted and something done about the posters.
or do we just keep loosing well informed, SN educated people from mn.
(no I can't link to a thread as there has been too many)

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Tota1Xaos · 11/09/2011 10:04

I believe Bullet has also left due to recent threads. One problem with educating is that those with more than 1 child with SN have encountered the most ghastly eugenicist comments, who could face that on a regular basis? Since the economic downturn, families receiving tax credits and benefits, including disability benefits, seem to be fair game for an unpleasant but vocal minority of posters.

PublicHair · 11/09/2011 10:02

i have seen some fucking revolting opinions aired on here (this is TSC)
i am amazed that somene calling someone else a pillock can be deleted, yet some of the horrible stuff posted about other peoples children is left standing.

i think given how trigger happy MNHQ are at the moment (and they really really are) to leave 'disablist' stuff up is a real kick in the teeth. My kids (thus far) are NT i have nothing but admiration for those who have the additional challenges of a SN child, there but for the grace of god go all of us eh.

StewieGriffinsMom · 11/09/2011 09:59

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AtYourCervix · 11/09/2011 09:54
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2shoes · 11/09/2011 09:50

NormanTebbit the trouble is that defending,educating and challenging takes time and energy, the sad fact is that a lot of people in the sn community hav't got the time nor energy, and if they do they are called names. thinks like professionally offended and sn mafia to name but 2 of the less rude ones.
sadly mn hq don't seem to take it seriously, as seen on a thread where peachy and another poster had posted about it, someone from mn hq cam on and started messing around with the "in crowd" on the thread.....

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Peachy · 11/09/2011 09:49

Glitterknickaz has also left, another valued poster.

Peachy · 11/09/2011 09:49

Good post Amrne

ANd you I sense some irony that I spend much of my life explaining to ds1 why he should keep somethings to himself ('in your head thought not an out the mouth one') and yet the NT community feels free to exempt themselves from such niceties.

cornsylk · 11/09/2011 09:46

sorry that fanjo has left Sad

Marne · 11/09/2011 09:45

I am very upset with what mn is turning into, i used to see mn as a suppotive place to come for advice, the sn comunity was great (lots of lovely parents offering great advice) but slowlly the sn comunity has shrunk due to some very nasty posters, people who judge us for what we do day to day to support our children. Know one can understand what a sn parent has to go through day to day unless you have been there (and i would not with it on anyone).

I am very upset that Fanjo has left, she is a lovely lady with a georgeous little girl, she does the best each day to support her dd and is doing a great job as are the others who go through the day to day problems with bringing up children with sn's. Surely MN should be her to support those who have it harder than others and not be pushing them away to cope with things on their own?

I know we all have different views on different things (wether its race, religion, anti abortion or what ever) but people should learn to keep things to theirselves so not to upset others. Some of the posters seem to come on here just to cause an argument, i find it very sad that these people have nothing better to do and they must lead very boring lives.

2shoes · 11/09/2011 09:44

mamalinosorry I missed that as I don't post in the sn topic

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Peachy · 11/09/2011 08:45

Good thread 2shoes. I will miss those who left, they are good people.

As some will know I am having to cope with yet another chidl regressing and I know that hs emant I have easily been oushed into losing my temper more than I would normally. However where once I felt I could post on here for support I don't now, I am toos cared somene will have a go at me for having ds4 or start questioning my income. Whilst I am not leaving it's meant I have yet again had to reduce my threads I can see down to very little and back off a lot. I would ahve hoped that in a time when I know my MH is shaky that MN might have been a safe place, instead it's the absolute opposite and left me in a real mess the other day.

NormanTebbit I have spent years challenging those views, but the touble is people seem to see it as a pile in or start threads whining about people who go on about the same old topics. I suspect when certain posters appear on a thread in full defence mode that certain others think wahey, time to have some fun..... I know I am not alone in this suspicion but what can we do?

I'd rather banning and cojtrol were not necessary adn that mumsnetters could be inspired to act with compassion but somehoe, just for a very few, I doubt it. But I will not allow myself to be reduced to the state I was in the othere day any more, so I can no longer post on thos threads.

I know who ahs left and they will be terribly missed, sadly tehya re also of the 'SN Warrior' ilk and that's 2 less people to educate the misinformed as well.

Voidka · 11/09/2011 08:24

So glad I missed the threads :(.

It is becoming more common on here. It used to be things like 'I dont believe in ASD/ADHD or whatever', but it is becoming more personal and nasty. I do think its because some posters think they can get away with it because they are never challenged by HQ or have their posts deleted.

NormanTebbit · 11/09/2011 08:10

Do you want specific posters banned or the threads policed for anti sn language/sentiment?

There are often extreme views on the chat boards. I've seen open support for the BNP. Do you think a more productive way forward is to openly challenge these views?

mamalino · 11/09/2011 08:05

2shoes I started a thread in SN about this. Some comments are truly disgusting. No wonder people are leaving.

2shoes · 11/09/2011 07:57

Glitterknickaz has also left and another poster.
the treads are still there, mn hq haven't deleted either of the 2 recent ones.

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WoofToYouTooLady · 11/09/2011 01:47

I have done a bit of digging and have found a thread with some SHOCKERS

no wonder fanjo was upset Sad

madwomanintheattic · 11/09/2011 01:35

quite. i don't think i really want to know what happened. except it's helpful to appreciate the staggering levels of ignorance and intolerance that permeate current society in order to beef up disability rights campaigns as a matter of necessity.

i'm hoping it was fanjo that asked for the thread to be deleted, rather than the vitriolic cowards.

hope fanjo is ok. Sad

kerrymumbles · 11/09/2011 01:24

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madwomanintheattic · 11/09/2011 01:11

that's the thing, kerry. it's awful to know that a thread was so vitriolic against sn that it was pulled, but not to know who the culprits were... despite the fact that they apparently were not trolls.

great. so bullies 1, sn parents 0, then.

kerrymumbles · 11/09/2011 01:09

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madwomanintheattic · 11/09/2011 01:07

thanks mhh. had a look. do you know who the other two were?

madhattershouse · 11/09/2011 01:01

Fanjoforthemamories left, a thread on flouncers corner. Seems there was some not so nice things going on. SN should be for help not bitches..shame!

WoofToYouTooLady · 11/09/2011 00:54

NB I don't go on the SN boards, I am referring to the chat boards

madwomanintheattic · 11/09/2011 00:53

i'm not sure what this is about either... but haven't been around sn over the last couple of days. can someone pm me if it's likely to be folk i 'know' pse...

WoofToYouTooLady · 11/09/2011 00:33

yes, like BIWI I want to know who

I try to challenge where I see it, but don't spot all or even some

I saw a 'professionally offended' comment recently and tried to get an explanation (in my experience a ref to professionally offended usually is a dig at those who object to anti SN language) but I didn't get any joy in drilling out the meaning/context and then I've been doing RL Shock

NB no direct experience of DCs with SN but an interest in equality

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