dear mn hq, please could something be done about the anti sn posts on mn

i think a lot of people stay silent as they dont know what to say? tho that is NOT an excuse at all and yes it does pretty much condone it :(

i am going to find the thread and report posts from it and i shall see what reply i get...

''specialneedsy' offends me.'

That one made me as well as the sniggering, bitchy little digs that followed. It is also very depressing to see that those who challenge posts that are offensive about sn issues are usually those actively involved in sn on a daily basis.
Whilst the silent majority of MN stays silent. Condoning?

could we do a 'stand up and be counted thread' for posters to show their support and say i dont like this and it needs to stop? tho it would probably just bring out all the trolls to disagree...

i would (and do) challenge some of the posts, but assume that the opinions have only been posted to get a reaction and should thus be deleted as trolling.

i am not saying that the families should get involved and expose themselves to publicity! hell no not at all, but some awareness raised of the appaling views and bigotry towards sn in general, is there any way of doing this without involving individual posters and their families?

'specialneedsy' offends me.

Agreed, usual. What else is it?

jaw dropping indeed peachy, it was fucking disgraceful!

i notice that mnhq have not yet posted on this thread whilst they have been actively posting on others...

Given what happened to Riven post media intervention, I would be worried about that tbh.

TBH I am very shamed of my own behaviour on Glitter's thread, I was pretty out of order myself. So won't be highlighting that one.

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Oh the jaw dropping moment glitter was attacked for spedning DLA on a pet even though it's been shown repeatedly that having a pet can massively help a child with ASD and costs far less than other forms of therapy.

Well I will now out myself: we spend DLA on a pet for ds1. A hamster. It costs me about £2 a week in bedding and food and means ds1 doesn;t cry when I ask him to go to his room (doesn;t make him stay there but it's a start). I am in no way ashamed of this.

I was once told off for ahving a holiday even though it was funded by a charity. And it seems impossible for them to register that DH works. it is of course technically impossible to be a SN parent and earning (that's not to register disapproval of non earning famillies- can happen to bloody anyone at this point in time sadly).

is there anyway we could actually get some media involvement, would any of the newspapers, not the daily mail obviously! stand up and say this is NOT ok? maybe if mn got some bad press on the issue they would actually do something (in that they are now editing titles with swearing in them etc)

grasps at straws...

I was shocked at the attitudes on Glitterknickaz thread

The posts are still there if anyone wants to read them

They were trolling as far as I was concerned.making shit up is trolling

i saw the specialneedsy comment and could not believe if was left to stand, utterly disgusting, but the poster did have a rather 'babyish' name so i wondered if perhaps she could only speak/post in a 'babyish' (and highly offensive) manner...

what herbietea said.

and also i echo what the lovely glitter says, WHY the hell should they have to 'educate' people, they can do that for themselves, hell its not hard with google!

the attacks on glitter were appalling on that thread, apparently she shouldnt even have a pet if she is on benefits ffs

i think its awful that posters are actually leaving, people who need the support of this place more than most others, are so disillusioned and upset by mn that they feel they cant come here! and what will mnhq do? fuck all i bet.

i have been lucky enough to meet bullet, who is lovely and i know glitter offsite as well, they are both amazing women who i admire a lot and i am angry and upset on their behalf.

mnhq should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to go on for so long, there have been repeated calls for this issue to be addressed and as usual its the same old "we will leave their posts so they can be educated yada yada" well its about time mnhq came and did some educating themselves.

i also am lucky enough not to have an special needs and nor do my children, but that doesnt stop me from feeling huge empathy for those that do and just being immensly grateful for my luck, telling people they should be grateful for their situation and the fact that they get benefits!! walk a mile in their shoes and then feel 'grateful'

Mme probably but then who would put themselves up for that?

And I do think unless you have been there it's impossible to get it- but i;ve worked with many people whose situations I don't get yet I get they need support and that's all I need to make me show empathy.

I do think economic downturn has helped with this and I actually get that if your home and income is threatened and you are cared then you are likely to be defensive; I am more than happy to accept that and forgive. But I think some people (and it's impossible to tell who on MN but in RL it's easy) think life is a deserving heirarchy and those at the bottom should STFU.

Actually i've recently been told that god gave Sn people a lower status and that too much input is therefore ungodly. I've overheard that Sn kids being helped prevents NT kids who need it as mucha ccessing support and that fudning decisions are amde on the basis of a preschool visit by a teacher (as if! sic frigging months for non verbal incontinent ds1 to get a TA, had to keep him at home). I've had the eugenicist stuff in RL from a family member (not a blood relation, i hold that difference dear). I'm sick of it.

And the buiggest illustrator has been my inability to ask for help with ds4 who is beinga ssessed comapred to the support I could get when ds3 regressed. luckily ds4 has retained his language but that's a crying shame. At least I knew not to risk it though; for a newbie- ouch.

If I thought for one second that the posts reflected someone's actual opinion and weren't just posted along with made up personal circumstances to get a rise out of parents who are going through hell, then I may want them to stand, too.

I am sad to hear that Fanjo has left.

I read the thread that caused her to go, and I cannot say that I blame her. "Specialneedsy"? and then laughing at it.

Do we need for other regular posters to challenge this more often? Would that help?

It feels like the posters on the SN board are constantly challenging this, and could do with general support from the rest of MN. Including MNHQ.

i get tax credits as dp doesn't earn a lot. the right wing media has a lot to answer for in making everyone 'look down' on those they've decided are 'below' them. so working poor look down on benefits claimants etc. nobody is looking 'up' and getting angry about what the rich are getting away with

Would it be better to just lock a thread if it has turned abusive? To save people from further abusiveness? Some people enjoy it and this would prevent them being able to all pile in and have a go. I don't agree with deleting as you are protecting the people who have been abusive.

I agree, I've some pretty 'petty' (well, by standards of some of the issues I see other parents dealing with) issues I'd like to be able to check out and discuss but am put off by some of the replies I've seen on threads.

I'm not talking about 'chat' or 'AIBU' - I'm the 1st one to put my hand up to admit to messing about on there, but when someone is asking for real help, I think MNHQ should be more active in the role as moderator.

Hope the boards recover soon, it could be a valuable and proud place to be, but far from it right now.

The in crowd on the thread? That implies regulars. Can you name people?

I never seem to see these threads but I'm horrified that people are being driven away from a place of support and that MNHQ are doing nothing about it.