McDonalds Ads - tell us how do you feel about them folks?

'Do you ff Lemon?

Believe me if you want condescending check out any thread railing against the use of formula-but thats ok babies matter, kids don't.'

OK, having said how fabulously intelligent I am I now need some help. What has my feeding got to do with McDs ads on MN?

Do you ff Lemon?

Believe me if you want condescending check out any thread railing against the use of formula-but thats ok babies matter, kids don't.

The diction on this thread is nothing compared to that on threads discussing formula companies.I just don't get the double standards .

MARYZ I don't wanto hide them from him. But I equally DO NOT wanto have the golden bloody arches leering at me while I'm nourishing my precious babby.

(Look, I haven't been condescending about anyone else having their 'eye off the ball', being 'taken in' or being 'victimised'.

I'm really fucking intelligent and well-informed. So can we shut up about stupidity? Please.)

No apostrophe in "it's toys" Mila. It in the possessive form never takes the apostrophe. .

BTW hoorah for you and not being boringly conformist like the Maryz of this world. Double

Lemon I think you need to rem that McD is a massive global company and the UK is a teeny,tiny part of it.I'm as concerned about the effects of McD is the US and China as the UK,maybe more with both countries being so vast.

Everything you like about McD(it's toys,cleanliness,cheapness) has nothing to do with the food which is fried meat and fries.McD are obviously doing a fab job with their marketing in taking your eye off the ball,you won't be the only one.

OK OK I give up. You're happy for the likes of McD's to eat ya up and spit ya out Lemon et al? Fine. I'm not and my son will never be fed their pseudo food.

But there's every possibility of him being brainwashed into thinking it's acceptable by their ad's appearing here. That's why I'll haveto stop using MN. I post while breastfeeding so he'd start being brainwashed early on!

Well if nobody is going to argue for (ie doesn't have a burning desire for them),the alleged majority (debatable given that the thread is in site stuff and keeps slipping off active) aren't going to care if it doesn't run and the pitas are strongly arguing against I don't get the need to run it.

Mn isn't going to be bankrupt not running it,it won't lead to fees and the ad space will be easily filled.

By not running it the pitas will be happy and those without a burning desire for an ad will continue to not have a burning desire for an ad. Nobody will be mighty hacked off which won't be the case if it does run-unless there are further issues we're not aware of.

I'm aware the above probably contains masses of bad punctuation but I'm no longer teaching.

If there were a poll in the UK re. capital punishment the majority would be for it. Is that a good reason to bring it back?

Anyway I'm dubious as to whether the majority of MNetters aren't bothered by McD ad's. They should do a proper poll - not relegate this to site stuff. They've made a HUGE change in their OWN policy. As I've said previously don't be surprised when you see the cosmetic surgery ad's.

I'm not the victim of their excellent ad campaigns.

I'm someone with a close interest in farming in Britain. And a parent. And a customer of MacDonalds.

So, if it's divisive, those who don't have a problem with the issue automatically have to give way to those who do have a problem with it? What about if it's "divisive" but only 2 people have an issue with it and 999,998 think it's fine? Do all those people automatically have to say "Oh it's a divisive issue, so you 2 can run the place your way to avoid arguments"?

At least you've the courage of your convictions Lemon and give positive reasons but unfortunately you're a victim of their excellent ad campaigns.

That's Orwellian Doublespeak AMum. You'd need damn good reasons to accept them IMO seeing as McD's is such a divisive issue.

Sorry, I'll argue for them. In as much as I don't think they deserve our ire.

In the pantheon of corporate bad behaviour, MacDonalds UK barely charts.

Look they pay properly, respect their staff and customers, keep the place clean, are very family friendly, buy from British farmers, and so on. God, compared to Tesco these guys are saints.

I anticipate a physical grimace with every refresh of the page - mcdonalds adverts on tv have dp and I rushing for the remote ..

I don't think anyone is going to argue for McD's adverts, just against any need to ban them, which is a rather different thing.

Oh yawn. I didn't wanto post anymore on this subject but it's hard to resist. I've come to realise my opinion is affected hugely by the fact I live in a country where there are very few McD's as a matter of principle and due to resistance, campaigns etc. In a country where food is king and obesity isn't as problematic as in the UK. So all this has definately coloured my views.

However, it still stands that MN will have no credibility if they take the McDollar AND boycott Nestle simultaneoulsy. It smacks of utter hypocrisy.

And frankly I found the founder of MN's justifications yesterday very poor and glib.

I've noticed these double standards in posters themselves and how it's fine for those in the vociferous majority to say anti McD's posts are "balderdash", "rubbish" etc whereas the accusations of rudeness are then directed at me and I've never said others are talking rubbish - I've just asked for cogent, positive reasons to be FOR these bloody ad's and I haven't read any as of yet. Don't know why I care though as it's quite obvious MN is no longer a place for reasoned debate.

Personally, I don't think the Nestle ban is effective - this "boycott" has been going on for at least 20 years now (to my certain knowledge) and probably longer, and what effect has it had? I reckon all it does is allow us to feel like we're "doing something" about the issue, while not achieving anything in the slightest. If I was the boss of Nestle I'd be sitting back and laughing at it, rather than quaking in my boots.

Personally I don't care as I use Adblock so don't see any banner ads anyway.
But more generally, I don't have that much of a problem with McD UK as they use almost all UK ingredients and do a lot to support UK farmers, according to the NFU. And recycle more and give more to charity than a heck of a lot of companies. This is all down to pressure from UK consumers - the McDs overseas aren't nearly as good. How they put decent stuff into the food and still make it taste shit is a miracle!

So on those grounds I'd have to support McD over many other companies. Does Boden use organic or sustainably-grown fibres? Cotton is one of the most polluting crops there is, but I don't see people complaining about them advertising here (I don't know who else does, thanks to aforementioned adblock)

Why Bibboty?

You've got a Nestle ban logo and a McD ad on the same site. Any visitor is going to think with a Nestle ban that MN "cares" ,is a deep thinking site,ethical if you like.

The same visitor sees the McD ad next to it and are going to think well deep thinking MN must think it's a company worthing of their promotion.

McD will benefit from the Nestle ban.

I am stepping away from this now. I'm getting abit too involved. It matters to me. What more can I say?