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GeraldineMumsnet · 04/02/2011 15:05

If you have two mins to spare, please could you have a look at this page and let us know what you think about this sort of visual representation of data?

We've chosen a slightly random topic as a 'taster' example, but it could, for example, be widened to include more foods, so you can see what's getting more/less expensive in your weekly shop? Or to show what's happening to the price of children's clothing?

Or would data on money-related stuff eg utility bills, or interest rates on mortgages/credit cards etc be useful?

Please let us know what you think.

And thanks to Simon Briscoe at Timetric for compiling and supplying the graphs.

By the way, the buttons at the top right of each graph show how you can manipulate them (zoom in to one particular date etc).

Cheers Wine

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ChippingInSmellyCheeseFreak · 07/02/2011 11:34

Pretty much the same comments as other people

  • Unlablled axis needs attention.
  • Colours are fine - maybe have a B&W print option for those who can't live without printing it off.

I know this is just a taster and understand it will be used for other data, but I just cannot see what we will use it for? We know how much things cost and they cost what they cost - how is charting any of this going to help anyone?

swallowedAfly · 07/02/2011 11:31

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TheProvincialLady · 07/02/2011 11:24

I like it.

Eglu · 07/02/2011 10:52

I like it. I like graphs and spend a lot of time at work displaying data this way.

Hassled · 07/02/2011 10:51

Very interesting in theory but yes, there's nowt worse than an unlabelled axis. You'd get marks deducted at GCSE for that, I'm sure.

senua · 07/02/2011 10:50

ooh, just played with the zoom in/out function. Very clever.

senua · 07/02/2011 10:48

The axes need proper labelling.
The last graph has too many lines: it is difficult to differentiate 8 colours.
In fact, do you need to use colours? If, for any reason, I wanted to print this info then I would want to use the black cartridge, not the colour one. Could you use a variety of dotted/dashed/broken lines instead of colour?

MmeLindt · 07/02/2011 10:47

I think a comparison of the prices that farmers receive(d) for their produce and the price of that produce in the supermarkets would be very interesting.

nickelbabe · 07/02/2011 10:45

The visuals on the page are good, but I don't think it's a good plan to lump different seasons in together when it coems to cost - okay, the general trend is upwarsd, but apples are cheaper in season, so form October to December.
What you should do, is have a graph that show only the cheapest season for the fruits (if you're lumping different fruits together) - that's because bananas and oranges andstrawberries and apples all have different seasons, plus, bananas in general are more expensive than apples (eve in season)

IngridBergmann · 07/02/2011 10:37

Slightly off topic but could we possibly have school reviews?

And preschool, and other settings. Obviously within the bounds of libel/etc! But maybe a star rating system a la schoolsnet? (which I'm not sure many people have heard of).

stealthsquiggle · 07/02/2011 10:36

interesting but other than boring people at dinner parties I am not sure what I would do with this info, or similar info on other products (and I am sure the grape thing is about price-matching as they are basically a loss-leader product for supermarkets).

Personally, I like the graphs and find them easy to read [geek]

I also think you need to give Norman his cup of tea emoticon soon, or there will be mass playmobil protests and you will find MN Towers surrounded by a large crowd of small but very cross people. I am sure he would agree to a compromise of sharing an emoticon with coffee-drinkers.

Itsjustafleshwound · 07/02/2011 10:21

I am sure that some posters would find this useful, but the short answer is that I don't see myself finding a use for the graphs ...

I would suspect that most graphs regarding costs would be postive slope - it would just be the degree of slope that would vary ..

GeraldineMumsnet · 07/02/2011 10:17

Thanks very much for constructive criticism and the suggestions for the sort of info you'd like to see represented in this way (car insurance, energy costs etc).

This one isn't particularly 'for' anything, more just to give you an example to respond to, IYSWIM.

Thanks again. Any more comments welcome.

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Dalrymps · 07/02/2011 10:13

I like Pacific's idea of in season fruit and veg, I'm never sure what is in season!

I'd like one on the price of meat..

mustdash · 07/02/2011 10:01

Clear, very easy to understand, but not sure why you're bothering?

BonzoDooDah · 07/02/2011 09:58

I like the graphs ... well laid out - clear to read ... techy person here giving it a thumbs up

moonbells · 07/02/2011 09:55

I have no problem with this way of presenting data. There is some duplication (the main graph at the end is a bit of a WHAM after the smaller ones) and I'd present the full data first then break it down gradually.

Median prices over the year would be useful too - these graphs plot prices regardless of season which is very aaaa! when it comes to the grapes!

Also how this relates to food miles would interest me (for your specific fruit example!)
ie a plot of fruit prices and where they come from... we try and eat seasonally.

NormanTheForeman · 07/02/2011 09:52

I would like a graph to show the price of tea. (and a teacup emoticon)

Norman x

PacificDogwood · 07/02/2011 09:51

Interesting, but maybe not that useful on a day-to-day basis. Easy to read, well laid out and all that Smile

I would be interested in a graph showing seasonal variations in price and wonder whether that would help people to buy more in-season stuff??

Meglet · 07/02/2011 09:49

I would like the banana line in yellow, the apple line in red and the pear line in green.

FiammiFreeway · 07/02/2011 09:41

You know, so we can see when to avoid each other.

FiammiFreeway · 07/02/2011 09:40

Lovely to look at, thankyou but I'm not entirely sure what this is for.

I know apples cost more than they used to but I still buy them iyswim.

If you could have one saying how many defections we have had to and from NetMums that would be interesting. Grin

or one comparing and collating our monthly cycles.

MayorNaze · 07/02/2011 09:39

that is really really interesting

deffo financial stuff would be good

and other foods

zoos go through less fruit than my children Angry

Snorbs · 07/02/2011 09:33

Nice. Very nice. More please!

Could you do something similar comparing the different costs for various kinds of fresh fish? Given the recent interest in what's happening to our fisheries I think that would be very useful.

I'd also like to see similar treatments for energy costs and also insurance - car insurance has been very volatile over the last few years.

Flossish · 07/02/2011 09:32

erm, I can't bring myself to care about the cost of apples. Sorry.
But the graphs are pretty.