Reform lost 6 by elections this week 🎉

I'm glad you're happy with Brexit. As I said, I know people who are very happy with their vote to Leave. It delivered exactly what they voted for. Destabilisation of the Union.

But you're better off than your foreign SiL right?🤔

@TooBigForMyBoots

It delivered exactly what they voted for. Destabilisation of the Union

How can you know why 498 MPs voted to leave the EU? Do you have evidence that they voted to destabilise the European Union?

My Spanish SIL has to pay to enter the UK. However, UK people don’t have to pay to enter Spain.

Reason is simple. UK are Spains number one customer for tourism. Spain continues to campaign for the 90/180 Schengen guideline to be relaxed as it’s costing them a fortune.

Any covert foreign interference in democratic elections or referenda is a serious concern.

The Brexit discussion - whether Brexit itself was good or bad - is not something I CBA to discuss.

Im not 100% sure what CBA stands for but if it stands for what I think it does, I agree with you.

Maybe CBA is an anagram of CAB

C an’t
A rgue
B ack

Hopefully they'll lose every single election they stand in after las night's expose on ITV.

Racist, misogynist scum!🤢 And traitors.😡

Shepshed (Leicestershire) Council By-Election Result:

🌹 LAB: 32.8% (+14.9)
➡️ RFM: 31.3% (-13.6)
🌳 CON: 23.1% (-2.4)
◼️ RES: 6.4% (New)
🔶 LDM: 3.2% (-3.4)
🌍 GRN: 3.2% (-1.9)

Labour GAIN from Reform UK.
Changes w/ 2025.

This sort of thing always fills me with gloom looking at the Conservative share. The country is stuffed if we have too many years of Labour. But I really don't want Reform or Restore so the Conservatives are our only hope. Look at the Restore vote share!

It was pretty stuffed after 14 years of Tory rule. I can’t see many people voting for more of that for a while.

But it’s weird how quickly some people forget!

@blossomtoes

It was pretty stuffed after 14 years of Tory rule. I can’t see many people voting for more of that for a while.

Maybe, but are the alternatives better? Or will it be another low turnout in the next general election as the electorate thinks all parties are poor?

I personally think Labour have been worse than the Conservatives (apart from the Boris wave). I think Labour have directed destructive policies to young people, the private sector and middle income earners. But admittedly this is a surprise as I thought nothing could be worse than the Tories dog days.

I like Kemi. I like her practical policies. I hope she will cut through. I think she will be better.

My family was much better off under the conservatives. No, we're not wealthy.

Or now look back wistfully as things have since got worse...

They've clearly gone for the middle classes to buoy up the public sector and benefits class. So whether they win again will depend on how big a client state they can build to tie in their voting base.

Absolutely.

Were you asleep when the Conservative government wrecked the UK from 2010-2024 woth Austerity, Trans madness, Brexit, crazy levels of immigration and Game of Thrones approach to running a political party?🤯

I read the headlines about single sex wards on the NHS today and once again was grateful that the incompetent, arrogant Tories were out.😁

They are going for the middle class to buoy up the benefits class?

How does that work.

And how does that affect the Reform vote?

I’ve never known public services to be in a worse state than they were at the end of the Tory era, or for them to have so many backlogs. Austerity has a lot to answer for.

Have you been asleep for the last two years?

I don't know how you can accuse the tories of 'game of thrones' after Burnham's coup.

The anti Labour posters on MN were calling for that 'coup'

The Conservatives should look into why they aren't winning back Reform voters.

I wasn't asleep no. I was appalled at the dog days of the Conservatives at the end. Some of that period you cite had Lib dem influence of course.

Trans madness agree.

Brexit I think was a long time coming.

Immgration..I did cite the Boris wave as an exception. I wish Labour would be tougher

Game of Thrones...Labour junked a record winning PM after two years and replaced him with someone that wasnt elected on the manifesto so I dont think they can cast stones.

I dislike the anti business and anti employment approach of the current government. They interfere too much and spend too much. I dislike the two tier justice system and the erosion of free speech. I dislike the Chagos deal. I dislike social security not actual security. I dislike the strengthening of union power. I dislike the huge pay rises for the public sector. I dislike net zero and the refusal to deal properly with energy security. I dislike the persecution of farmers and children who go to a nonstate provided school. I dislike the interference in the countryside by people who dont understand it. I could go on.

Conservatives under Kemi have my vote in 2029 and again if she does what she says she will.

I think they will eventually

We have to live within our means. If we don't have enough money we can't have things. We are spending our children and grandchildren futures on jam today.

And a vast number of people cant say today "well I worked for it..I should get good public services!". Because they havent and dont work.

Not sure Burnham launched his (year in the making) coup due to posts on MN.