FFS Clacton

I will start tnis by saying i detest Farage. But he's been very cunning here. He increased his number and share of votes even with these allegations hanging over him. If the Parliamentary committee find he is guilty of wrongdoing and suspend him after his constituents (whose interests they are supposedto represent) have shown their whole hearted support, it will play into the Farage victim narrative.He will be viewed as a martyr and suppprt for hin will surge. It will be seen as an affront to democracy, and a waste of public funds if a third election for the Clacton seat is called.

Before Brexit we had returns agreements that we don’t have now.

people couldn’t come by lorry buy because of Brexit the risk of coming by boat was worth it. No returns deals.

Brexit was damaging. Not only for the economy but because it was based on sovereignty of our boarders which in fact - has turned out to be the opposite.

I will start tnis by saying i detest Farage. But he's been very cunning here. He increased his number and share of votes even with these allegations hanging over him. If the Parliamentary committee find he is guilty of wrongdoing and suspend him after his constituents (whose interests they are supposedto represent) have shown their whole hearted support, it will play into the Farage victim narrative.He will be viewed as a martyr and suppprt for hin will surge. It will be seen as an affront to democracy, and a waste of public funds if a third election for the Clacton seat is called.

It will be seen as an affront to democracy, and a waste of public funds if a third election for the Clacton seat is called

It would be difficult to claim an affront to democracy as it will be for the Clacton electorate to decide if there should be another by-election.

eta: the Clacton electorate is 79,785 so given the by-election results there should easily be the 10% needed for a recall petition.

Exactly.

People don’t want to hear it. They want to see it.

There was only about 10,000 who voted against him, im not sure enough of them will have the drive to sign a petition andcwant to waste hundreds of thousands on a by ekection for which the result is a realistically a foregone conclusion

Why are you bothered? You don't live in Clacton.

If Reform ever do get in, will the men in white coats have to take you away?

@hedgeknight ok, he won, so what now? Will the ears of the left open? Or will the waggy finger scoldings continue?

It will be seen as an affront to democracy, and a waste of public funds if a third election for the Clacton seat is called

It would be difficult to claim an affront to democracy as it will be for the Clacton electorate to decide if there should be another by-election.

eta: the Clacton electorate is 79,785 so given the by-election results there should easily be the 10% needed for a recall petition.

I feel the same way about the people of Makersfield.

I will start tnis by saying i detest Farage. But he's been very cunning here. He increased his number and share of votes even with these allegations hanging over him. If the Parliamentary committee find he is guilty of wrongdoing and suspend him after his constituents (whose interests they are supposedto represent) have shown their whole hearted support, it will play into the Farage victim narrative.He will be viewed as a martyr and suppprt for hin will surge. It will be seen as an affront to democracy, and a waste of public funds if a third election for the Clacton seat is called.

These discussions are always the same on MN. The bottom line is this:-

Large number of members of UK population “I’m sick of seeing all these immigrants coming in on boats, no wonder I can’t get a house or a doctors appointment. That Farage bloke is the only politician who seems to care about it”

Middle class population “you’re stupid, you don’t know anything, you don’t understand anything, you’re racist and thick”

Large number of members of UK population “screw you, how dare you tell me I’m stupid, you don’t see what I see. I’m definitely voting Reform now”

And that is how our next government will be Reform.

"I've met the man in the street. He's a cunt."
Sid Vicious.

Maybe they wanted the investigation to go ahead. But yes very disappointing. He probably brought his votes.

Clapham????????????????

Exactly
and it’s how Brexit happened

I voted leave
I would still vote leave now

Exactly
and it’s how Brexit happened

I voted leave
I would still vote leave now

That’s a reasonable enough point, but again, nothing will happen overnight.

The job market is terrible. Food is so expensive. The majority of people have seen their standards of living drop. However, instead of being open to the idea that their own voting choices may have played a role (amongst other things), it’s always easier to blame ‘foreigners’.

Brexit changed the immigration profile, you got what you voted for. Less EU immigrants, more immigrants from other countries,

And the UK made no agreements with the EU on refugees/asylum seekers after Brexit as well as losing access to security databases. That is what leave meant.

No, I don't think so.

Because it doesn't make any sense for him to have called this by-election before the inquiry concluded. If it finds him to be dodgy, then it's obvious that he called this by-election to try to deny Clacton the information that they would have needed to fairly judge whether they still wanted him.

It costs everyone in the UK money as the investigation has to be re-opened, which also potentially means yet another by election costing hundreds of thousands of pounds.

It turns out that we also end up granting asylum to undesirable criminals who have been rejected in other countries like France because post-Brexit, they don’t share that information with us.